I work every week, it's a relaxing shop job in a small town, but it pays for my food and rent. I have no ambition to try to follow a career or go to college, because I don't want the stress and the massive debt I would build up from the student loans I would need to take out to go to college.
In my free time, I practice instruments, work on my art skills, hiking, camping, etc. I'd say my life is extremely relaxing and a lot of fun, but according to a lot of people, I'm completely pissing away my life because I'm content with where I am, and have no ambition to improve past this point, as far as pursuing a career.
Women like ambitious men (higher chance of economic stability), and women form our cultural values.
There's nothing inherently wrong with it, it's just that humans are naturally ambitious. Look at the massive leaps we're constantly making in every field, it's human nature to be as motivated as you possible can while you're alive. When someone who is clearly unambitious, and not depressed/unhappy about it, it confuses people. That's the biggest perceived problem with the current generation.
It severely limits your opportunities.
If you don't care, more power to you I guess.
Motivation means having a reason to do something.
For example, you might have a reason to sleep. Therefore, you sleep. You can be described as being motivated to sleep.
In the same way, you can be motivated to study or to not study. To work or not to work. If you have decided on one course of action then you can be called motivated to do that action.
But this decisionmaking process in your brain depends on your beliefs. Most people don't even know their own beliefs. They might think they know - for example, they might think that they want to study - but in fact, they do not want to study as much they want to play games.
there's nothing wrong with unmotivated. this is America. you want to be a lazy f**k, go for it.
Human Desire == selfish lust for wealth
I'm with OP. Unfortunately, nearly every source of income within the next decade or so will be from a high tier (college bound) job. The lower tier will be replaced with cheaper alternatives: foreigners and dare I say it automation (anons)
What's wrong with being unmotivated, anonymous?
I'm a 22 year old guy, and I'm pretty much the perfect example of someone who has no real motivation, goal, or direction in my life, and yet I enjoy it immensely. I recently heard about the book Boys Adrift, which comments on how teenagers/young adults are becoming more and more unmotivated, and I have trouble understanding why this is such a bad thing.
I work every week, it's a relaxing shop job in a small town, but it pays for my food and rent. I have no ambition to try to follow a career or go to college, because I don't want the stress and the massive debt I would build up from the student loans I would need to take out to go to college.
In my free time, I practice instruments, work on my art skills, hiking, camping, etc. I'd say my life is extremely relaxing and a lot of fun, but according to a lot of people, I'm completely pissing away my life because I'm content with where I am, and have no ambition to improve past this point, as far as pursuing a career.
Everyone has different definitions of success it used to be success was getting a two story house in the suburbs with a wife and two kids. I think what's happening is there is a paradigm shift in this generation's definition of success.
Humans constantly fear their own mortality, and the best way to alleviate that fear is to delude yourself into thinking that leaving a mark on the world matters. You motivate yourself into following a huge life goal, or raising children, so that when you do eventually die, you will feel like you accomplished something that will be remembered.
The whole idea is pointless though. In my opinion, the only way to live life is to try to be as happy as you possibly can without harming or getting in the way of anyone else's happiness. That's not to say that we're all meant to be lazy slobs who do nothing but masturbate and sleep, I think that you should follow your passion. If you have a passion for art, then follow that. If you have a passion for engineering, or programming, then follow that. Whatever makes you happy is the only thing that should matter in life.
It's the new mindset humans are adapting. Success is starting to become measured in happiness, rather than monetary success. Within 100 years, I bet we will have not made many leaps as far as our technology. Humans are just becoming content with it. It's starting with the young males, and soon it will spread to the young females.
If I was to make a prediction, I foresee men living with their parents well into their thirties, while this generation of women will tend to marry older men because they still prefer an ambitious man. The next generation will be unambitious men and women, and the lifestyle of humanity will become increasingly more relaxed and slowed down.
F**king Peter Pan generation.
Useless degenerates, all of you.
It's the new mindset humans are adapting. Success is starting to become measured in happiness, rather than monetary success. Within 100 years, I bet we will have not made many leaps as far as our technology. Humans are just becoming content with it. It's starting with the young males, and soon it will spread to the young females.
If I was to make a prediction, I foresee men living with their parents well into their thirties, while this generation of women will tend to marry older men because they still prefer an ambitious man. The next generation will be unambitious men and women, and the lifestyle of humanity will become increasingly more relaxed and slowed down.
This is beyond sad, and I hope you are dead wrong.
What the f**k.
To be completely honest, I think this does have a lot to do with the entertainment saturation (video games movies) and the liberal "everything is good. nothing is bad. dont succeed unless you want to" attitude.
Makes sense to be honest. I was always confused whenever my dad told me I was unmotivated like it was a bad thing. I'd mention that I'm unhappy, and he'd say it's because I'm unmotivated. I would try to explain that I feel no joy in working for something, but it doesn't quite click with him.
My lack of motivation stems from the fact that I will probably never be able to afford a home, and even less chance of getting married and having a kids. It's not that I want to be like this, but when the cost of living an even half-decent/no frills lifestyle, your ambition starts to dim. How can people move on with life when they can't afford it?
Approaching Western Mentality = Enjoy life. Relax. Don't force yourself into a career.
Eastern Mentality = Ambitious. Succeed in life. Make humanity proud.
This is the fall of Rome, albeit more passive and slow. The barbarians are our minds.
What's wrong with being unmotivated, anonymous?
I'm a 22 year old guy, and I'm pretty much the perfect example of someone who has no real motivation, goal, or direction in my life, and yet I enjoy it immensely. I recently heard about the book Boys Adrift, which comments on how teenagers/young adults are becoming more and more unmotivated, and I have trouble understanding why this is such a bad thing.
I work every week, it's a relaxing shop job in a small town, but it pays for my food and rent. I have no ambition to try to follow a career or go to college, because I don't want the stress and the massive debt I would build up from the student loans I would need to take out to go to college.
In my free time, I practice instruments, work on my art skills, hiking, camping, etc. I'd say my life is extremely relaxing and a lot of fun, but according to a lot of people, I'm completely pissing away my life because I'm content with where I am, and have no ambition to improve past this point, as far as pursuing a career.
Right now I'm depressed that I'm unambitious because I'm still in my parent's basement. My job doesn't give out nearly enough hours for me to be self-sufficient, I can't find any new jobs that pay anything close to what I make now, and I hate being a burden on my parents.
If I could just live paycheck to paycheck like you, I'd love it. As it is, it just isn't working for me.
What's wrong with being unmotivated, anonymous?
I'm a 22 year old guy, and I'm pretty much the perfect example of someone who has no real motivation, goal, or direction in my life, and yet I enjoy it immensely. I recently heard about the book Boys Adrift, which comments on how teenagers/young adults are becoming more and more unmotivated, and I have trouble understanding why this is such a bad thing.
I work every week, it's a relaxing shop job in a small town, but it pays for my food and rent. I have no ambition to try to follow a career or go to college, because I don't want the stress and the massive debt I would build up from the student loans I would need to take out to go to college.
In my free time, I practice instruments, work on my art skills, hiking, camping, etc. I'd say my life is extremely relaxing and a lot of fun, but according to a lot of people, I'm completely pissing away my life because I'm content with where I am, and have no ambition to improve past this point, as far as pursuing a career.
You're not the classically unmotivated type - you're just motivated to lead a life you enjoy. You might find that you want something different in the future, but right now you have a roof over your head, clothes on your back, food on your plate, and enough time/money to pursue hobbies.
Personally I doubt if most people can say that.
It's the new mindset humans are adapting. Success is starting to become measured in happiness, rather than monetary success. Within 100 years, I bet we will have not made many leaps as far as our technology. Humans are just becoming content with it. It's starting with the young males, and soon it will spread to the young females.
If I was to make a prediction, I foresee men living with their parents well into their thirties, while this generation of women will tend to marry older men because they still prefer an ambitious man. The next generation will be unambitious men and women, and the lifestyle of humanity will become increasingly more relaxed and slowed down.
Not true. There are select Americans as well as a sh*t ton of foreigners who are all very hard working and will be able to spur scientific and commercial progress for the next generation. There always will be.
My lack of motivation stems from the fact that I will probably never be able to afford a home, and even less chance of getting married and having a kids. It's not that I want to be like this, but when the cost of living an even half-decent/no frills lifestyle, your ambition starts to dim. How can people move on with life when they can't afford it?
You most certainly won't be able to afford a home with that attitude. If you don't think you can afford a home and thus don't work hard and get an education, than you really won't be able to afford a home.
Right now I'm depressed that I'm unambitious because I'm still in my parent's basement. My job doesn't give out nearly enough hours for me to be self-sufficient, I can't find any new jobs that pay anything close to what I make now, and I hate being a burden on my parents.
If I could just live paycheck to paycheck like you, I'd love it. As it is, it just isn't working for me.
Work harder. Cut out all the time-wasters, don't drink, don't play video games, and get your ass to work--you'll be out of the basement in no time.
Just get afraid. Get afraid of living at home. Stop partying all the time (if you do). Quit WoW. Play less video games. Stop going on Youtube/Reddit/Digg/w/e 8 hours a day. Stop watching television. Work harder, better, faster, stronger.
Also listening to trance and drinking coffee helps.
Right now I'm depressed that I'm unambitious because I'm still in my parent's basement. My job doesn't give out nearly enough hours for me to be self-sufficient, I can't find any new jobs that pay anything close to what I make now, and I hate being a burden on my parents.
If I could just live paycheck to paycheck like you, I'd love it. As it is, it just isn't working for me.
I don't want to live paycheck to paycheck, but I also don't really want to be in college anymore. I just f**king want to live my life and then die.
Not the guy you're responding to, by the way.
Not true. There are select Americans as well as a sh*t ton of foreigners who are all very hard working and will be able to spur scientific and commercial progress for the next generation. There always will be.
You most certainly won't be able to afford a home with that attitude. If you don't think you can afford a home and thus don't work hard and get an education, than you really won't be able to afford a home.
Work harder. Cut out all the time-wasters, don't drink, don't play video games, and get your ass to work--you'll be out of the basement in no time.
Just get afraid. Get afraid of living at home. Stop partying all the time (if you do). Quit WoW. Play less video games. Stop going on Youtube/Reddit/Digg/w/e 8 hours a day. Stop watching television. Work harder, better, faster, stronger.
Also listening to trance and drinking coffee helps.
No one's looking for adviceice, bro. We all *know* what it takes to be successful and all that sh*t, we just don't particularly care to go for it.
I think humanity in general is starting to turn to a more sedentary lifestyle. Almost a plateau of ambition. We've gotten to the point where there is no real need to progress further, sure, we could go to space, but no one really wants to fund that and it's completely non-essential at the moment. We face no real challenge, so we have no real reason to be innovative and ambitious. It used to be that we couldn't move fast enough, or we couldn't communicate fast enough, but these things are becoming less of an issue. You can communicate with someone on the other side of the world in less than a second.
In next few decades, I predict that you'll start to see humanity stabilize a bit. Population will stop booming as much, medicine will be refined and improved, increasing the length of the average human's life, and non-essential technology (entertainment, video games etc) will be improved. Humanity is becoming more and more relaxed, and I think this is a good thing. We need to take care of the people on this planet, before we can think of any more major goals.
Not true. There are select Americans as well as a sh*t ton of foreigners who are all very hard working and will be able to spur scientific and commercial progress for the next generation. There always will be.
You most certainly won't be able to afford a home with that attitude. If you don't think you can afford a home and thus don't work hard and get an education, than you really won't be able to afford a home.
Work harder. Cut out all the time-wasters, don't drink, don't play video games, and get your ass to work--you'll be out of the basement in no time.
Just get afraid. Get afraid of living at home. Stop partying all the time (if you do). Quit WoW. Play less video games. Stop going on Youtube/Reddit/Digg/w/e 8 hours a day. Stop watching television. Work harder, better, faster, stronger.
Also listening to trance and drinking coffee helps.
>Work harder, better, faster, stronger.
Why?
I think humanity in general is starting to turn to a more sedentary lifestyle. Almost a plateau of ambition. We've gotten to the point where there is no real need to progress further, sure, we could go to space, but no one really wants to fund that and it's completely non-essential at the moment. We face no real challenge, so we have no real reason to be innovative and ambitious. It used to be that we couldn't move fast enough, or we couldn't communicate fast enough, but these things are becoming less of an issue. You can communicate with someone on the other side of the world in less than a second.
In next few decades, I predict that you'll start to see humanity stabilize a bit. Population will stop booming as much, medicine will be refined and improved, increasing the length of the average human's life, and non-essential technology (entertainment, video games etc) will be improved. Humanity is becoming more and more relaxed, and I think this is a good thing. We need to take care of the people on this planet, before we can think of any more major goals.
People will always be ambitious. Just because you and your friends aren't, doesn't mean that nice Jewish boy down the street, or the Chinese and Indian International students will be sitting around and watching the world and their lives fly by as passive bystanders.
>Work harder, better, faster, stronger.
Why?
You need to understand the difference between satisfaction and fulfillment, then you'll know.
Fapping is satisfying. Hard work paying off is fulfilling.
>Work harder, better, faster, stronger.
Why?
Because there are 5.7 billion other people int he world who would kill their mothers and fathers to get to where you are now (assuming your not in an internet cafe in Cuba).
Not true. There are select Americans as well as a sh*t ton of foreigners who are all very hard working and will be able to spur scientific and commercial progress for the next generation. There always will be.
You most certainly won't be able to afford a home with that attitude. If you don't think you can afford a home and thus don't work hard and get an education, than you really won't be able to afford a home.
Work harder. Cut out all the time-wasters, don't drink, don't play video games, and get your ass to work--you'll be out of the basement in no time.
Just get afraid. Get afraid of living at home. Stop partying all the time (if you do). Quit WoW. Play less video games. Stop going on Youtube/Reddit/Digg/w/e 8 hours a day. Stop watching television. Work harder, better, faster, stronger.
Also listening to trance and drinking coffee helps.
This is the kind of mentality I just don't understand. You talk about improving your life, but the way to do it is to push yourself to the point where you're miserable. When does it stop? Is there ever a point in that success driven mindset where you can sit back, and enjoy the fruits of your labor? It seems like an endless wheel of work, constantly pushing yourself to an unattainable goal that inevitably ends in death.
This is the kind of mentality I just don't understand. You talk about improving your life, but the way to do it is to push yourself to the point where you're miserable. When does it stop? Is there ever a point in that success driven mindset where you can sit back, and enjoy the fruits of your labor? It seems like an endless wheel of work, constantly pushing yourself to an unattainable goal that inevitably ends in death.
It's that kind of mentality that separates those in this world that will do something with their lives and progress the state of humanity and those that, well, do nothing with their lives.
This is the kind of mentality I just don't understand. You talk about *being happy with* your life, but the way to do it is to *sit around and consume products that ambitious people made* to the point where you're *fat and unintelligent*. When does it stop? Is there ever a point in that a *consumption* driven mindset where you can *stand up*, *go out, and do something with your life*? It seems like an endless wheel of work, *consumption* constantly *consuming food, media, products of ambition* that inevitably ends in death.
Not true. There are select Americans as well as a sh*t ton of foreigners who are all very hard working and will be able to spur scientific and commercial progress for the next generation. There always will be.
You most certainly won't be able to afford a home with that attitude. If you don't think you can afford a home and thus don't work hard and get an education, than you really won't be able to afford a home.
Work harder. Cut out all the time-wasters, don't drink, don't play video games, and get your ass to work--you'll be out of the basement in no time.
Just get afraid. Get afraid of living at home. Stop partying all the time (if you do). Quit WoW. Play less video games. Stop going on Youtube/Reddit/Digg/w/e 8 hours a day. Stop watching television. Work harder, better, faster, stronger.
Also listening to trance and drinking coffee helps.
I am working hard. Damn hard. My customers love me and I'm one of the best and most versatile guys at my store. The problem is that I have no seniority within the company and on top of that, I don't have any dependents, so I'm close to last on the list when it comes to doling out hours. If I could get forty hours a week then I have the perfect studio apartment all picked out where I could move out to.
As it is, I get, maybe 20 hours if I'm lucky. Usually 15-16. I don't have anything taking my money. No WoW or video games or anything like that. Taking care of my bills just wipes out what little money I have.
There's nothing wrong with it, OP. At least not for you. Corporate America fears this latest trend because it means less workers for them to exploit and less people buying their useless, ovepriced junk.
It's that kind of mentality that separates those in this world that will do something with their lives and progress the state of humanity and those that, well, do nothing with their lives.
This is the kind of mentality I just don't understand. You talk about *being happy with* your life, but the way to do it is to *sit around and consume products that ambitious people made* to the point where you're *fat and unintelligent*. When does it stop? Is there ever a point in that a *consumption* driven mindset where you can *stand up*, *go out, and do something with your life*? It seems like an endless wheel of work, *consumption* constantly *consuming food, media, products of ambition* that inevitably ends in death.
>It's that kind of mentality that separates those in this world that will do something with their lives and progress the state of humanity and those that, well, do nothing with their lives.
You act as if we care about this.
You don't conform to societal norms so you are defunct and must be fixed.
Get a f**king job you bum, friends like you are horrible to have
It's that kind of mentality that separates those in this world that will do something with their lives and progress the state of humanity and those that, well, do nothing with their lives.
This is the kind of mentality I just don't understand. You talk about *being happy with* your life, but the way to do it is to *sit around and consume products that ambitious people made* to the point where you're *fat and unintelligent*. When does it stop? Is there ever a point in that a *consumption* driven mindset where you can *stand up*, *go out, and do something with your life*? It seems like an endless wheel of work, *consumption* constantly *consuming food, media, products of ambition* that inevitably ends in death.
I see what you're saying, but I don't fully understand the point.
If you are completely content with your life, what reason do you have to improve it even further? I fully understand ambition of people in poor areas of the world, they are not content with their life, and they want to improve that through hard work. It's admirable, and I can completely understand it. For a person who was fortunate enough to be born in an area of the world where a small amount of honest work will allow them to live comfortably, and content, I just don't see the point.
It reminds me of a very old joke, you've probably heard it before, about a successful capitalist who visits a fisherman. He goes on to tell the fisherman, who is already content with his life, how by uprooting his life and working tirelessly, he could eventually become extremely successful. The fisherman then asks him what he will do with his life after achieving the goal, and the capitalist says that he'll be able to retire to a small fishing village, and enjoy the same simple life he already was enjoying.
That's how I see the kind of mindset you're talking about. In my opinion, it has no real point, when you could fully enjoy everything that you love in life, by living paycheck to paycheck with a relaxing job. If they enjoy working, and that's their passion in life though, it's a completely different story. It's just the working for working sake mentality that I find so confusing.
>It's that kind of mentality that separates those in this world that will do something with their lives and progress the state of humanity and those that, well, do nothing with their lives.
You act as if we care about this.
Yes truly. Much interesting innovation has been for reasons of 'I wonder how far I can push myself' or 'I wonder what the f**k this does' I can see such life affirming consumptions working. Dont feed me this 'further society' sh*t, though. Outside motivators such as social pressure do not happiness make. Unless you a gook, or something
Get a f**king job you bum, friends like you are horrible to have
You don't conform to societal norms so you are defunct and must be fixed.
>It's that kind of mentality that separates those in this world that will do something with their lives and progress the state of humanity and those that, well, do nothing with their lives.
You act as if we care about this.
There's nothing wrong with it, OP. At least not for you. Corporate America fears this latest trend because it means less workers for them to exploit and less people buying their useless, ovepriced junk.
This is the kind of mentality I just don't understand. You talk about improving your life, but the way to do it is to push yourself to the point where you're miserable. When does it stop? Is there ever a point in that success driven mindset where you can sit back, and enjoy the fruits of your labor? It seems like an endless wheel of work, constantly pushing yourself to an unattainable goal that inevitably ends in death.
What I proposed that you do is this. Set a goal for yourself that is difficult to complete. For example, losing weight, acquiring a skill, saving money up to travel, working out, going to school, getting a scholarship, getting a good job. Then, work as hard as you can until you achieve that goal.
Then look back and ask yourself, was it worth it? You will notice that there is this feeling inside of you that says, YES, YES IT WAS. That is called fulfillment.
Try it with something small first. If you don't like the feeling, continue on with your normal ways. Also, important! Don't quit if you fail at first. We all fail hard some times. Just get back up and keep going till you get it.
It's that kind of mentality that separates those in this world that will do something with their lives and progress the state of humanity and those that, well, do nothing with their lives.
This is the kind of mentality I just don't understand. You talk about *being happy with* your life, but the way to do it is to *sit around and consume products that ambitious people made* to the point where you're *fat and unintelligent*. When does it stop? Is there ever a point in that a *consumption* driven mindset where you can *stand up*, *go out, and do something with your life*? It seems like an endless wheel of work, *consumption* constantly *consuming food, media, products of ambition* that inevitably ends in death.
So few people these days end up doing anything that will even come close to progressing the state of humanity.
So few people these days end up doing anything that will even come close to progressing the state of humanity.
It may be hard for you to realize, but it's the little things that count and amass to big ones. Think about what Anonymous is. Think about what a Country is.
In my opinion a huge amount of careers and jobs are completely unnecessary anyway, and each individual will tend to work more then he should ever need to. On average people work 1/3 of their life, sleep for 1/3 and are exhausted for the other 1/3.
If you can be happy and content you're probably achieving a lot more then everyone else.
I am working hard. Damn hard. My customers love me and I'm one of the best and most versatile guys at my store. The problem is that I have no seniority within the company and on top of that, I don't have any dependents, so I'm close to last on the list when it comes to doling out hours. If I could get forty hours a week then I have the perfect studio apartment all picked out where I could move out to.
As it is, I get, maybe 20 hours if I'm lucky. Usually 15-16. I don't have anything taking my money. No WoW or video games or anything like that. Taking care of my bills just wipes out what little money I have.
You need another job I guess.
I'm a total basement loser but my grandpa used to work five jobs at once. His entire life was working because he was a teacher and wanted better things for his kids.
I still don't understand it really but he must have really loved it or just poured his whole soul into it, and it became everything.
If you want money, you need to work somehow. If you want to be fulfilled, you've got to have money and a job that you like.
Right now I hate everything, quit the sh*t job I had and dropped out of school because I couldn't take it anymore. Things got bad, and I can't take that. I want to live in a fantasy world. I'm the goddamn Peter Pan.
But, I know that this is impossible. Every day I tell myself I'll do something, but I piss it all away. I don't even know if slaving away at some sh*t job again will make me even half happy but I just want some money in my pocket right now.
Anything else, thats going to take time.
Not true. There are select Americans as well as a sh*t ton of foreigners who are all very hard working and will be able to spur scientific and commercial progress for the next generation. There always will be.
You most certainly won't be able to afford a home with that attitude. If you don't think you can afford a home and thus don't work hard and get an education, than you really won't be able to afford a home.
Work harder. Cut out all the time-wasters, don't drink, don't play video games, and get your ass to work--you'll be out of the basement in no time.
Just get afraid. Get afraid of living at home. Stop partying all the time (if you do). Quit WoW. Play less video games. Stop going on Youtube/Reddit/Digg/w/e 8 hours a day. Stop watching television. Work harder, better, faster, stronger.
Also listening to trance and drinking coffee helps.
You problem is that you rely on something which is not you to be happy. I sincerely hope that people like you will never change, it would be your end.
The "big picture" ideology is that unmotivated people are toxic to societies.
The ideology of the individual though, is that happiness is all that matters. Being happy and living your life to the fullest is the most you can hope to achieve.
Neither are wrong, it's just about what you want to put most weight in. Do you want to live your life in service to something else, sacrificing your own happiness for the betterment of society, or do you want to live your life for yourself, and enjoy it as much as you can?
What I proposed that you do is this. Set a goal for yourself that is difficult to complete. For example, losing weight, acquiring a skill, saving money up to travel, working out, going to school, getting a scholarship, getting a good job. Then, work as hard as you can until you achieve that goal.
Then look back and ask yourself, was it worth it? You will notice that there is this feeling inside of you that says, YES, YES IT WAS. That is called fulfillment.
Try it with something small first. If you don't like the feeling, continue on with your normal ways. Also, important! Don't quit if you fail at first. We all fail hard some times. Just get back up and keep going till you get it.
I've already done that, which is why I know I'm fine with what I am right now. After every supposedly major accomplishment I've done, the only feeling I've had is happiness that I don't have to stress over it anymore. No pride in my work, no happiness in recognizing the fruits of my labor, just glad that I don't have to do it anymore.
So tell me, why must I do all that and not feel any different, when I could skip the whole deal and be just as happy?
I am 25, I worked extremely hard up until 23. Consequently I graduated UCLA with a double major, play 4 instruments, speak 3 languages, have my pilots license, made 70k as a personal assistant for 2 years, had many beautiful women
none of it is worth it. none of it was worth the effort to reach it. i want nothing but to waste away the rest of my life in the simplest manner possible.
You need another job I guess.
I'm a total basement loser but my grandpa used to work five jobs at once. His entire life was working because he was a teacher and wanted better things for his kids.
I still don't understand it really but he must have really loved it or just poured his whole soul into it, and it became everything.
If you want money, you need to work somehow. If you want to be fulfilled, you've got to have money and a job that you like.
Right now I hate everything, quit the sh*t job I had and dropped out of school because I couldn't take it anymore. Things got bad, and I can't take that. I want to live in a fantasy world. I'm the goddamn Peter Pan.
But, I know that this is impossible. Every day I tell myself I'll do something, but I piss it all away. I don't even know if slaving away at some sh*t job again will make me even half happy but I just want some money in my pocket right now.
Anything else, thats going to take time.
I wish I could get another job. Right now I'm making $10 an hour at a job where my boss is totally willing to help me out and work around my school schedule, and I really like all of my co-workers and regular customers there.
As it is, any time someone adviceertises that a job is going to have a base pay rate of $10 an hour, people will storm the recruiting office like marines on a metaphorical beach. Several of my co-workers and I have tried and failed many times to get new work.
Its just a bad time for the job market right now.
I am 25, I worked extremely hard up until 23. Consequently I graduated UCLA with a double major, play 4 instruments, speak 3 languages, have my pilots license, made 70k as a personal assistant for 2 years, had many beautiful women
none of it is worth it. none of it was worth the effort to reach it. i want nothing but to waste away the rest of my life in the simplest manner possible.
Are you from the Northeast 802? Nice shot btw.
OK, you say you regret it. But, you make 70k as a personal assistant, are interesting, have had good looking women. Lets say you didn't do that and were still living with your parents and all you could say that you ever did with your life was level up a paladin to 80 in WoW. Would you feel better or worse than now?
Each personality type is essential to the world. You need ambitious people to constantly improve and innovate on ideas, but you equally need unambitious people to maintain these things. Without unambitious people to do the jobs the more ambitious people could never be content with, our entire society would fall apart.
Each personality type is essential to the world. You need ambitious people to constantly improve and innovate on ideas, but you equally need unambitious people to maintain these things. Without unambitious people to do the jobs the more ambitious people could never be content with, our entire society would fall apart.
Point well taken (ambitionf** here)
The happiness that's most valuable is the happiness that is based the fewest conditions as possible.
The ability to be content with a slow paced and simple life is more valuable to me than the ability to run around working for another thing after another, never stopping, never satisfied.
What is there to accomplish, really? There really is nothing you must do. So do what you want. But if what you want is to work a lot, then so be it.
The "big picture" ideology is that unmotivated people are toxic to societies.
The ideology of the individual though, is that happiness is all that matters. Being happy and living your life to the fullest is the most you can hope to achieve.
Neither are wrong, it's just about what you want to put most weight in. Do you want to live your life in service to something else, sacrificing your own happiness for the betterment of society, or do you want to live your life for yourself, and enjoy it as much as you can?
Can't I have both?
You need another job I guess.
I'm a total basement loser but my grandpa used to work five jobs at once. His entire life was working because he was a teacher and wanted better things for his kids.
I still don't understand it really but he must have really loved it or just poured his whole soul into it, and it became everything.
If you want money, you need to work somehow. If you want to be fulfilled, you've got to have money and a job that you like.
Right now I hate everything, quit the sh*t job I had and dropped out of school because I couldn't take it anymore. Things got bad, and I can't take that. I want to live in a fantasy world. I'm the goddamn Peter Pan.
But, I know that this is impossible. Every day I tell myself I'll do something, but I piss it all away. I don't even know if slaving away at some sh*t job again will make me even half happy but I just want some money in my pocket right now.
Anything else, thats going to take time.
Having a least some work is a good start. Hell, you could try your hand at volunteer work. Its basically free work experience and if the people you work for like you enough, free referrals. Those two are key when it comes to getting your foot in the door for a job.
Happiness is the ultimate goal of life, OP. If you've found it this early, good work.
Personally I'm only motivated to work hard and make something of my life because it feels f**king good to be succesful. I dunno if that makes sense, but it's the driving force behind my life right now. I want to have a legitimate job I can be proud of, I want to have a nice, small home, I want to be able to comfortably provide for the family I intend to raise.
The "big picture" ideology is that unmotivated people are toxic to societies.
The ideology of the individual though, is that happiness is all that matters. Being happy and living your life to the fullest is the most you can hope to achieve.
Neither are wrong, it's just about what you want to put most weight in. Do you want to live your life in service to something else, sacrificing your own happiness for the betterment of society, or do you want to live your life for yourself, and enjoy it as much as you can?
In an ideal world, give and take should be equal.
In my opinion working 8 hours a day and barely make it to the end of the month is NEVER right, not even if you skipped high school.
On the other hand you should get what you give. And that never happens. You both end high up doing nothing and getting sh*tloads of money or you work like a slave and get spitted on by the society. In the best case you still work 8 hours a day, sleep 7-8, take 1-2 to travel from/to work and eat; that makes 6 hours of life a day. There's no way you can live in the society working less than that and I personally find it wrong.
I'd love to work 4 hours a day and get to live in a small 1 room apartment with water and electricity to keep the place warm.
Can't I have both?
Having a least some work is a good start. Hell, you could try your hand at volunteer work. Its basically free work experience and if the people you work for like you enough, free referrals. Those two are key when it comes to getting your foot in the door for a job.
The "big picture" ideology is that unmotivated people are toxic to societies.
The ideology of the individual though, is that happiness is all that matters. Being happy and living your life to the fullest is the most you can hope to achieve.
Neither are wrong, it's just about what you want to put most weight in. Do you want to live your life in service to something else, sacrificing your own happiness for the betterment of society, or do you want to live your life for yourself, and enjoy it as much as you can?
Can't I have both?
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Yes, sir, yes you can!
That's the point of capitalism. Capitalism aligns personal goals and ambitions with the public welfare. Voila.
I am 25, I worked extremely hard up until 23. Consequently I graduated UCLA with a double major, play 4 instruments, speak 3 languages, have my pilots license, made 70k as a personal assistant for 2 years, had many beautiful women
none of it is worth it. none of it was worth the effort to reach it. i want nothing but to waste away the rest of my life in the simplest manner possible.
Would you happen to have this in a higher res? This is looking like new desktop background material.
Can't I have both?
Having a least some work is a good start. Hell, you could try your hand at volunteer work. Its basically free work experience and if the people you work for like you enough, free referrals. Those two are key when it comes to getting your foot in the door for a job.
I need to get over the antisocial crap first.
Also, need to get out of the house more than once a week.
That once a week is a therapist.
I go and talk about how pathetic I am.
Can't I have both?
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Yes, sir, yes you can!
That's the point of capitalism. Capitalism aligns personal goals and ambitions with the public welfare. Voila.
...Capitalism aligns personal goals and ambitions with the public welfare.
What if they just plain don't line up?
What's wrong with being unmotivated, anonymous?
I'm a 22 year old guy, and I'm pretty much the perfect example of someone who has no real motivation, goal, or direction in my life, and yet I enjoy it immensely. I recently heard about the book Boys Adrift, which comments on how teenagers/young adults are becoming more and more unmotivated, and I have trouble understanding why this is such a bad thing.
I work every week, it's a relaxing shop job in a small town, but it pays for my food and rent. I have no ambition to try to follow a career or go to college, because I don't want the stress and the massive debt I would build up from the student loans I would need to take out to go to college.
In my free time, I practice instruments, work on my art skills, hiking, camping, etc. I'd say my life is extremely relaxing and a lot of fun, but according to a lot of people, I'm completely pissing away my life because I'm content with where I am, and have no ambition to improve past this point, as far as pursuing a career.
OP is either lying to himself, or he truly is happy with his life, in which case who cares what other ppl think? You have plenty of motivation by the sound of it (playing instruments, hiking, art, etc), just b/c your motivation isn't career-oriented who gives a f**k, so long as you can provide yourself with the necessary resources to sustain your other ambitions
In an ideal world, give and take should be equal.
In my opinion working 8 hours a day and barely make it to the end of the month is NEVER right, not even if you skipped high school.
On the other hand you should get what you give. And that never happens. You both end high up doing nothing and getting sh*tloads of money or you work like a slave and get spitted on by the society. In the best case you still work 8 hours a day, sleep 7-8, take 1-2 to travel from/to work and eat; that makes 6 hours of life a day. There's no way you can live in the society working less than that and I personally find it wrong.
I'd love to work 4 hours a day and get to live in a small 1 room apartment with water and electricity to keep the place warm.
Hell, you could do what my niece does and just work at home. Some places, like online stores, tend to do home-based customer service calling. I'm not sure what you would have to do to get in on that, but it'd still be a pretty sweet deal.
Hell, you could do what my niece does and just work at home. Some places, like online stores, tend to do home-based customer service calling. I'm not sure what you would have to do to get in on that, but it'd still be a pretty sweet deal.
Can't possibly pay a rent with a job like that
I need to get over the antisocial crap first.
Also, need to get out of the house more than once a week.
That once a week is a therapist.
I go and talk about how pathetic I am.
Does it help?
Also, forcing yourself out of the house is a good way to start. Maybe just little fifteen minute strolls around the neighborhood or something like that. If there are any public parks or heavily wooded areas near your home, go there. Great for introspection.
OP is either lying to himself, or he truly is happy with his life, in which case who cares what other ppl think? You have plenty of motivation by the sound of it (playing instruments, hiking, art, etc), just b/c your motivation isn't career-oriented who gives a f**k, so long as you can provide yourself with the necessary resources to sustain your other ambitions
I think in this context "no motivation" refers more to the classic ideal of the career-minded motivation and all that.
EVERYONE has some motivation, otherwise you would simply stop moving where you are and lay there till you died. The difference in this subject is between motivation to accomplish and motivation to relax and enjoy.
What's wrong with being unmotivated, anonymous?
I'm a 22 year old guy, and I'm pretty much the perfect example of someone who has no real motivation, goal, or direction in my life, and yet I enjoy it immensely. I recently heard about the book Boys Adrift, which comments on how teenagers/young adults are becoming more and more unmotivated, and I have trouble understanding why this is such a bad thing.
I work every week, it's a relaxing shop job in a small town, but it pays for my food and rent. I have no ambition to try to follow a career or go to college, because I don't want the stress and the massive debt I would build up from the student loans I would need to take out to go to college.
In my free time, I practice instruments, work on my art skills, hiking, camping, etc. I'd say my life is extremely relaxing and a lot of fun, but according to a lot of people, I'm completely pissing away my life because I'm content with where I am, and have no ambition to improve past this point, as far as pursuing a career.
OP is enlightened; he is like the Buddha.
How did the Buddha get famous in the first place? Nigga was just chilling under a tree and got profound spiritual insights.
Be content with what you have is a God's send.
In an ideal world, give and take should be equal.
In my opinion working 8 hours a day and barely make it to the end of the month is NEVER right, not even if you skipped high school.
On the other hand you should get what you give. And that never happens. You both end high up doing nothing and getting sh*tloads of money or you work like a slave and get spitted on by the society. In the best case you still work 8 hours a day, sleep 7-8, take 1-2 to travel from/to work and eat; that makes 6 hours of life a day. There's no way you can live in the society working less than that and I personally find it wrong.
I'd love to work 4 hours a day and get to live in a small 1 room apartment with water and electricity to keep the place warm.
This, a thousand times this. That would be a much more relaxed life.
Women like ambitious men (higher chance of economic stability), and women form our cultural values.
No good comes from chasing pu**y, pu**y that loves to go shoppin', clubbin', and gossipin'
Are their women in the world who can appreciate a life similar to what OP described?
For the last few years, because of the whole job situation, I got a bit off track from the plan I always forced myself into. I've been living in my own apartment, working at a Games Workshop near here, and it pays enough for me to sustain my modest lifestyle. I work on instruments as well, and love hiking, not really much into art, but aside from that it sounds pretty similar to OP. I've noticed that I'm really, really happy with this. More than I've ever felt from pushing myself towards a goal, I never felt fulfilled, just exhausted and depressed.
The one concern I have though, is that will I ever find a girlfriend with this kind of life? I'm in shape, fairly decent looking, and I take care of myself, but I always hear about how women want ambitious career-orientated guys. While my standards aren't high, and I would be fine with a more modest looking girl, I just don't want to be alone forever.
American have been sold the American Dream -- massive debt, big house, kids, wife, two cars.
The American Dream was creating from Jewish bankers so they can profit from the immense profits (car loan, mortgage)
I became ambitious because I wanted to make my parents proud.
Enjoy your life devoid of MAKING PA PROUD op.
Can't possibly pay a rent with a job like that
My niece does. She, her husband, and their two kids are doing great. Its not a glamorous lifestyle, to be sure, but it is a LIFEstyle, seeing as how they aren't starving to death.
Give it a chance, Anon.
This is why you should work hard.
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This is why you should work hard.
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how to convert lazyf**s
Are their women in the world who can appreciate a life similar to what OP described?
For the last few years, because of the whole job situation, I got a bit off track from the plan I always forced myself into. I've been living in my own apartment, working at a Games Workshop near here, and it pays enough for me to sustain my modest lifestyle. I work on instruments as well, and love hiking, not really much into art, but aside from that it sounds pretty similar to OP. I've noticed that I'm really, really happy with this. More than I've ever felt from pushing myself towards a goal, I never felt fulfilled, just exhausted and depressed.
The one concern I have though, is that will I ever find a girlfriend with this kind of life? I'm in shape, fairly decent looking, and I take care of myself, but I always hear about how women want ambitious career-orientated guys. While my standards aren't high, and I would be fine with a more modest looking girl, I just don't want to be alone forever.
You're marriage potential.
Wait until you're mid-thirties, women will flock to you.
American have been sold the American Dream -- massive debt, big house, kids, wife, two cars.
The American Dream was creating from Jewish bankers so they can profit from the immense profits (car loan, mortgage)
Haha, you're funny.
I became ambitious because I wanted to make my parents proud.
Enjoy your life devoid of MAKING PA PROUD op.
If your parents aren't proud of you no matter what you do, then they've not done a proper job in parenting.
Are their women in the world who can appreciate a life similar to what OP described?
For the last few years, because of the whole job situation, I got a bit off track from the plan I always forced myself into. I've been living in my own apartment, working at a Games Workshop near here, and it pays enough for me to sustain my modest lifestyle. I work on instruments as well, and love hiking, not really much into art, but aside from that it sounds pretty similar to OP. I've noticed that I'm really, really happy with this. More than I've ever felt from pushing myself towards a goal, I never felt fulfilled, just exhausted and depressed.
The one concern I have though, is that will I ever find a girlfriend with this kind of life? I'm in shape, fairly decent looking, and I take care of myself, but I always hear about how women want ambitious career-orientated guys. While my standards aren't high, and I would be fine with a more modest looking girl, I just don't want to be alone forever.
Yeah, I'm with one of those girls.
Hell, my girlfriend even works at the same store that I do. We're never in debt, since we walk every where instead of driving, and with our combined paychecks, we have enough for a nice apartment, and more than enough money to fund our hobbies.
I'm ambitious as f**k.
I just don't learn anything from school [college].
They keep talking and talking and talking... They never do anything.
So I have to do things outside of institutionalized education.
Any wh**re who's that attractive and will also value your worth by status and income is most likely going to sound like a squirrel anyway.
You're marriage potential.
Wait until you're mid-thirties, women will flock to you.
Haha, you're funny.
If your parents aren't proud of you no matter what you do, then they've not done a proper job in parenting.
Sure they can say they're proud and convince themselves they are, but there will always be a knowledge at the back of their mind that they wish you had been a doctor or a lawyer...
Yeah, I'm with one of those girls.
Hell, my girlfriend even works at the same store that I do. We're never in debt, since we walk every where instead of driving, and with our combined paychecks, we have enough for a nice apartment, and more than enough money to fund our hobbies.
SHE'S CHEATING ON YOU
F**GET
F**GET
F**GET
Sure they can say they're proud and convince themselves they are, but there will always be a knowledge at the back of their mind that they wish you had been a doctor or a lawyer...
Who cares, I have no obligation to my parents.
Maybe if I was asian, but I'm not.
You're marriage potential.
Wait until you're mid-thirties, women will flock to you.
Haha, you're funny.
If your parents aren't proud of you no matter what you do, then they've not done a proper job in parenting.
Do you even know what being proud means?
HURP DURP IM VERY PROUD OF MY 25 YEAR OLD VIRGIN SON WHO HAS NEVER DONE A DAY OF WORK. HE JUST KILLED HIMSELF OVER A CANCELLED ANIME SHOW BUT IM STILL PROUD OF HIM DURR IF HE HAD GROWN UP IN A SLUM IN RIO DE JANEIRO AT LEAST HE WOULD'VE GOTTEN LAID I SURE AM A GREAT PARENT
>>Dont feed me this 'further society' sh*t, though.
I have no need to further a society that enjoy cramming nacho and cheese down their fat f**king faces while watching the Super Bowl.
The over-consumption culture of America reached it's apex, now it's slowly declining .... people don't want to buy more junk, they want to work less and relax.
Are their women in the world who can appreciate a life similar to what OP described?
For the last few years, because of the whole job situation, I got a bit off track from the plan I always forced myself into. I've been living in my own apartment, working at a Games Workshop near here, and it pays enough for me to sustain my modest lifestyle. I work on instruments as well, and love hiking, not really much into art, but aside from that it sounds pretty similar to OP. I've noticed that I'm really, really happy with this. More than I've ever felt from pushing myself towards a goal, I never felt fulfilled, just exhausted and depressed.
The one concern I have though, is that will I ever find a girlfriend with this kind of life? I'm in shape, fairly decent looking, and I take care of myself, but I always hear about how women want ambitious career-orientated guys. While my standards aren't high, and I would be fine with a more modest looking girl, I just don't want to be alone forever.
Honestly? No. You might find SOMEONE, but she'll be settling for you. You could be f**king Brad Pitt and she would still be settling for you.
>>Dont feed me this 'further society' sh*t, though.
I have no need to further a society that enjoy cramming nacho and cheese down their fat f**king faces while watching the Super Bowl.
The over-consumption culture of America reached it's apex, now it's slowly declining .... people don't want to buy more junk, they want to work less and relax.
and thats awwwright,
namaste
Honestly? No. You might find SOMEONE, but she'll be settling for you. You could be f**king Brad Pitt and she would still be settling for you.
F**k bitches, get -contentment-.
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F**k bitches, get -contentment-.
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Get contentment, smoke trees, f**k bitches
wisdem
Do you even know what being proud means?
HURP DURP IM VERY PROUD OF MY 25 YEAR OLD VIRGIN SON WHO HAS NEVER DONE A DAY OF WORK. HE JUST KILLED HIMSELF OVER A CANCELLED ANIME SHOW BUT IM STILL PROUD OF HIM DURR IF HE HAD GROWN UP IN A SLUM IN RIO DE JANEIRO AT LEAST HE WOULD'VE GOTTEN LAID I SURE AM A GREAT PARENT
Do YOU know what's being proud of a person?
HURR DURR MY SON IS A RICH JEW LAWYER THAT WORKS 120 HOURS A WEEK AND NEVER SPENDS TIME WITH HIS KIDS WHILE HIS WIFE IS F**KING THE GARDINER I SURE AM A GREAT PARENT
Do you even know what being proud means?
HURP DURP IM VERY PROUD OF MY 25 YEAR OLD VIRGIN SON WHO HAS NEVER DONE A DAY OF WORK. HE JUST KILLED HIMSELF OVER A CANCELLED ANIME SHOW BUT IM STILL PROUD OF HIM DURR IF HE HAD GROWN UP IN A SLUM IN RIO DE JANEIRO AT LEAST HE WOULD'VE GOTTEN LAID I SURE AM A GREAT PARENT
Sure they can say they're proud and convince themselves they are, but there will always be a knowledge at the back of their mind that they wish you had been a doctor or a lawyer...
I didn't say they couldn't be disappointed, mind. Just that they should take some pride in what they've created.
The disadviceantages of being unmotivated:
1. Women will never like you. Ever. The females can back me up on this.
2. You will never know luxury, only mediocrity.
Enjoy your sh*t life, you lazy bastard.
As an American, I feel it to be my civic duty to stay out of The Machine that has fattened my brothers and sisters so that they die sooner.
Do YOU know what's being proud of a person?
HURR DURR MY SON IS A RICH JEW LAWYER THAT WORKS 120 HOURS A WEEK AND NEVER SPENDS TIME WITH HIS KIDS WHILE HIS WIFE IS F**KING THE GARDINER I SURE AM A GREAT PARENT
It's Jewish Lawyer, 'JEW' is a pejorative term.
Do YOU know what's being proud of a person?
HURR DURR MY SON IS A RICH JEW LAWYER THAT WORKS 120 HOURS A WEEK AND NEVER SPENDS TIME WITH HIS KIDS WHILE HIS WIFE IS F**KING THE GARDINER I SURE AM A GREAT PARENT
You don't have to go that far to make your parents proud.
Anyway, I honestly can't explain why I am ambitious. I think people who aren't ambitious are so depressing.
Different folks different strokes etc
The disadviceantages of being unmotivated:
1. Women will never like you. Ever. The females can back me up on this.
2. You will never know luxury, only mediocrity.
Enjoy your sh*t life, you lazy bastard.
Oh hey look! Someone's posting their opinion as if it were fact! He sure convinced me!
Different people have different paths in life. It's best not to judge and let people do whatever they want.
The disadviceantages of being unmotivated:
1. Women will never like you. Ever. The females can back me up on this.
2. You will never know luxury, only mediocrity.
Enjoy your sh*t life, you lazy bastard.
The concept of luxury is highly relative.
You will never know satisfaction if you think the OP isn't living in luxury.
Watch Clerks II.
As long as you're cool with what you're doing, f**k what other people think.
Honestly, being an ambitionf**, all I want to say is this.
IT DOESN'T Matter that you don't follow the 'corporate career path' if anything ITS BETTER THAT YOU DONT. Just do something that you like, get good at something, have fun with it. But just don't sit around, never get good at anything but video games, watching TV, and being a loser.
Do art, do music, whatever. Pour your soul into something you enjoy and it will pay back tenfold.
The disadviceantages of being unmotivated:
1. Women will never like you. Ever. The females can back me up on this.
2. You will never know luxury, only mediocrity.
Enjoy your sh*t life, you lazy bastard.
Don't need women.
Don't need luxury. As a single man I can afford more than enough for myself. I can't buy diamond-encrusted caviar, but I can live in a clean place, eat what I want to eat, what more do I need?
>In my free time, I practice instruments, work on my art skills, hiking, camping
Doesn't sound ambitionless to me.
Women like ambitious men (higher chance of economic stability), and women form our cultural values.
women form our cultural values? Where the f**k did you get that idea?
Don't need women.
Don't need luxury. As a single man I can afford more than enough for myself. I can't buy diamond-encrusted caviar, but I can live in a clean place, eat what I want to eat, what more do I need?
Go to Mozambique and leech off of the hard work of somebody else's grandparents.
You don't have to go that far to make your parents proud.
Anyway, I honestly can't explain why I am ambitious. I think people who aren't ambitious are so depressing.
Different folks different strokes etc
I think part of it is that you have seen success from your ambition. I used to be ambitious, but had plenty of disappointments to the point where I just said to myself "What's the point of striving for greatness and receiving mediocrity, when I can skip the crap and be fine with my life?"
Do YOU know what's being proud of a person?
HURR DURR MY SON IS A RICH JEW LAWYER THAT WORKS 120 HOURS A WEEK AND NEVER SPENDS TIME WITH HIS KIDS WHILE HIS WIFE IS F**KING THE GARDINER I SURE AM A GREAT PARENT
Both are extremes though. Most likely, people won't get either money or happiness.
Happiness is harder to get as it entails letting things go to an extent. Money, or at least enough money, requires a measure of responsibility and persistence.
Way I see it, you lose aspects of both pursuing the other in different ways and even if you manage to strike a balance between work and family/making yourself happy there is still the 'in the moment' sort of happiness that is harder to achieve.
True happiness is gained. Once you get it, its impossible to lose despite anything.
I think humanity in general is starting to turn to a more sedentary lifestyle. Almost a plateau of ambition. We've gotten to the point where there is no real need to progress further, sure, we could go to space, but no one really wants to fund that and it's completely non-essential at the moment. We face no real challenge, so we have no real reason to be innovative and ambitious. It used to be that we couldn't move fast enough, or we couldn't communicate fast enough, but these things are becoming less of an issue. You can communicate with someone on the other side of the world in less than a second.
In next few decades, I predict that you'll start to see humanity stabilize a bit. Population will stop booming as much, medicine will be refined and improved, increasing the length of the average human's life, and non-essential technology (entertainment, video games etc) will be improved. Humanity is becoming more and more relaxed, and I think this is a good thing. We need to take care of the people on this planet, before we can think of any more major goals.
This, plus a little anti-military, anti-war mindset sounds just like the downfall of the Roman empire.
What's wrong with being unmotivated, anonymous?
I'm a 22 year old guy, and I'm pretty much the perfect example of someone who has no real motivation, goal, or direction in my life, and yet I enjoy it immensely. I recently heard about the book Boys Adrift, which comments on how teenagers/young adults are becoming more and more unmotivated, and I have trouble understanding why this is such a bad thing.
I work every week, it's a relaxing shop job in a small town, but it pays for my food and rent. I have no ambition to try to follow a career or go to college, because I don't want the stress and the massive debt I would build up from the student loans I would need to take out to go to college.
In my free time, I practice instruments, work on my art skills, hiking, camping, etc. I'd say my life is extremely relaxing and a lot of fun, but according to a lot of people, I'm completely pissing away my life because I'm content with where I am, and have no ambition to improve past this point, as far as pursuing a career.
Yea OP is prob pretty normal. Not a lazyf** for sure.
Go to Mozambique and leech off of the hard work of somebody else's grandparents.
Huh?
>implying I'm leeching
I work for my life, there is no leeching. If I'm leeching off of society by not pouring my soul into it, then a leech I'll be.
Alternatively, maybe I'm getting trolled.
It's funny how only men seem to comprehend the enlightened lifestyle, while women cling to their materialistic values as if their life depended on it.
I think part of it is that you have seen success from your ambition. I used to be ambitious, but had plenty of disappointments to the point where I just said to myself "What's the point of striving for greatness and receiving mediocrity, when I can skip the crap and be fine with my life?"
>I used to be ambitious, but had plenty of disappointments to the point where I just said to myself "What's the point of striving for greatness
Jesus christ, get some willpower.
You are not a man.
I just picked up another book by someone with a Ph.D and let me tell you, the book is dry as f**k.
It's called "Why smart people fall for fads"
I read 35 pages and I closed it; what a f**king useless book. I'm going to stop reading it.
Honestly, being an ambitionf**, all I want to say is this.
IT DOESN'T Matter that you don't follow the 'corporate career path' if anything ITS BETTER THAT YOU DONT. Just do something that you like, get good at something, have fun with it. But just don't sit around, never get good at anything but video games, watching TV, and being a loser.
Do art, do music, whatever. Pour your soul into something you enjoy and it will pay back tenfold.
You're confusing a lack of motivation with being lazy. No one here is adviceocating being a leech to one's parents. We're saying that we don't see the point in always working harder and harder to make our way up in life when we'd be fine with living in an apartment with little frills. We'd be fine working the less glamorous jobs so long as it let us enjoy our lives how we want to live them.
I think part of it is that you have seen success from your ambition. I used to be ambitious, but had plenty of disappointments to the point where I just said to myself "What's the point of striving for greatness and receiving mediocrity, when I can skip the crap and be fine with my life?"
I think part of it is that you have seen success from your ambition. I used to be ambitious, but had plenty of disappointments to the point where I just said to myself "What's the point of striving for greatness and receiving mediocrity, when I can skip the crap and be fine with my life?"
FUUUCK BROTHER!!!!!!!! Don't give up. Please don't give up. Perseverance! Sometimes life just hands you a bag of sh*t, deal with it, and keep goin'. I know this is just the internet but I hope that I can change your mind and bring you back.
It's funny how only men seem to comprehend the enlightened lifestyle, while women cling to their materialistic values as if their life depended on it.
Just letting you know it is possible to work hard and still be happy and 'enlightened'.
Some people actually enjoy (shock horror) being productive and working hard.
>I used to be ambitious, but had plenty of disappointments to the point where I just said to myself "What's the point of striving for greatness
Jesus christ, get some willpower.
You are not a man.
A "man" doesn't keep plugging along for the sake of nothing. A real man takes an honest look at the situation and decides what's best. Clinging to unrealistic expectations is for women.
What's wrong with being unmotivated, anonymous?
I'm a 22 year old guy, and I'm pretty much the perfect example of someone who has no real motivation, goal, or direction in my life, and yet I enjoy it immensely. I recently heard about the book Boys Adrift, which comments on how teenagers/young adults are becoming more and more unmotivated, and I have trouble understanding why this is such a bad thing.
I work every week, it's a relaxing shop job in a small town, but it pays for my food and rent. I have no ambition to try to follow a career or go to college, because I don't want the stress and the massive debt I would build up from the student loans I would need to take out to go to college.
In my free time, I practice instruments, work on my art skills, hiking, camping, etc. I'd say my life is extremely relaxing and a lot of fun, but according to a lot of people, I'm completely pissing away my life because I'm content with where I am, and have no ambition to improve past this point, as far as pursuing a career.
OP, the book is not about you if you are on your own. Going to college has only recently been the normal expectation, back in the day that was just for rich people.
This book, as far as I can tell, is about people who still live with their parents into their twenties.
Watch Clerks II.
As long as you're cool with what you're doing, f**k what other people think.
This. This. For the love of f**king sh*t out of an a**hole going 100 MPH into someone's unsuspecting face while Hitler sodomizes babies, this.
Just letting you know it is possible to work hard and still be happy and 'enlightened'.
Some people actually enjoy (shock horror) being productive and working hard.
Yeah, and that's fine. But this thread is not about such people.
>I used to be ambitious, but had plenty of disappointments to the point where I just said to myself "What's the point of striving for greatness
Jesus christ, get some willpower.
You are not a man.
Is that supposed to mean something? Oh god no I don't meet the criteria of someone I don't even know. I better say that I hate my life as it is so that he'll feel happier with himself knowing he hasn't wasted his life.
It's funny how only men seem to comprehend the enlightened lifestyle, while women cling to their materialistic values as if their life depended on it.
>women don't understand the enlightened lifestyle
Women have understood it for centuries. Why else do you think they're so adviceerse to work, and jump at the chance to marry someone who is wealthy?
There's nothing inherently wrong with it, it's just that humans are naturally ambitious. Look at the massive leaps we're constantly making in every field, it's human nature to be as motivated as you possible can while you're alive. When someone who is clearly unambitious, and not depressed/unhappy about it, it confuses people. That's the biggest perceived problem with the current generation.
>humans are naturally ambitious
wrong
>Look at the massive leaps we're constantly making in every field
only achieved by a selected few
The glaring flaw of the book "Boy Adrift" is the whole book is based within culture context.
If the author's writing was put within a framework of a primitive African tribe it would make no f**king sense.
In short, he's an idealist American.
Way to go OP! chill out and to hell with competion!
No motivation means a better world.
Huh?
>implying I'm leeching
I work for my life, there is no leeching. If I'm leeching off of society by not pouring my soul into it, then a leech I'll be.
Alternatively, maybe I'm getting trolled.
Yea, I was trolling. But seriously, so I can understand, because it's hard for me to. Do you want to have kids? I mean I can't think of something more fulfilling than to raise a child to carry on the torch into the dark mystery of the future. Also, evolution, natural selection, do you want to get selected out? I guess we'll all be ambitionf**s some day because of natural selection lol.
Not true. There are select Americans as well as a sh*t ton of foreigners who are all very hard working and will be able to spur scientific and commercial progress for the next generation. There always will be.
You most certainly won't be able to afford a home with that attitude. If you don't think you can afford a home and thus don't work hard and get an education, than you really won't be able to afford a home.
Work harder. Cut out all the time-wasters, don't drink, don't play video games, and get your ass to work--you'll be out of the basement in no time.
Just get afraid. Get afraid of living at home. Stop partying all the time (if you do). Quit WoW. Play less video games. Stop going on Youtube/Reddit/Digg/w/e 8 hours a day. Stop watching television. Work harder, better, faster, stronger.
Also listening to trance and drinking coffee helps.
>listening to trance
I listen to trance all the goddamn time and I'm lazy as f**k. Trance helps you be lazy.
>women don't understand the enlightened lifestyle
Women have understood it for centuries. Why else do you think they're so adviceerse to work, and jump at the chance to marry someone who is wealthy?
Not quite the same. Women don't want to work but they also expect to receive the luxury and material gains of hard work that they do not do. Because of their meat-hole.
The glaring flaw of the book "Boy Adrift" is the whole book is based within culture context.
If the author's writing was put within a framework of a primitive African tribe it would make no f**king sense.
In short, he's an idealist American.
except that he does talk about those tribes at length and explain how we fail where they succeed, so f**k your sh*t
Reading this thread just makes me feel so lucky i'm one of those people who are motivated and enjoy accomplishing something worthwhile. The rest of you suck.
A "man" doesn't keep plugging along for the sake of nothing. A real man takes an honest look at the situation and decides what's best. Clinging to unrealistic expectations is for women.
You will have to fail a lot before you can get what you want bro. You can't expect it there on a platter for you.
Yea, I was trolling. But seriously, so I can understand, because it's hard for me to. Do you want to have kids? I mean I can't think of something more fulfilling than to raise a child to carry on the torch into the dark mystery of the future. Also, evolution, natural selection, do you want to get selected out? I guess we'll all be ambitionf**s some day because of natural selection lol.
I don't think I'll ever have children, and I don't care if my genes are wiped out. I'll be dead, why should I care? It will make no difference to me.
The push for the recently popularity of college isn't by accident; it was the Jewish bankers agenda all along.
It's not the "government's money" since the American government borrows it's money from the Federal Reserve, which is owned by an International Jewish Banking Cartel.
Enjoy paying interest money to the Jews.
Reading this thread just makes me feel so lucky i'm one of those people who are motivated and enjoy accomplishing something worthwhile. The rest of you suck.
You will have to fail a lot before you can get what you want bro. You can't expect it there on a platter for you.
I'm not adviceocating giving up everything altogether, but there is a sweet spot where expectations and reality meet up.
When my expectations are unrealistic in the face of reality, if I don't want to be frustrated, I have to change my expectations.
Yea, I was trolling. But seriously, so I can understand, because it's hard for me to. Do you want to have kids? I mean I can't think of something more fulfilling than to raise a child to carry on the torch into the dark mystery of the future. Also, evolution, natural selection, do you want to get selected out? I guess we'll all be ambitionf**s some day because of natural selection lol.
>implying thats how natural selection works at all
>Implying social factors during your upbringing are not more important in determining your worldview
>implying you are a troll and not just really f**king stupid
The push for the recently popularity of college isn't by accident; it was the Jewish bankers agenda all along.
It's not the "government's money" since the American government borrows it's money from the Federal Reserve, which is owned by an International Jewish Banking Cartel.
Enjoy paying interest money to the Jews.
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This, plus a little anti-military, anti-war mindset sounds just like the downfall of the Roman empire.
Well you can't really blame people for having that mindset. We're in an unpopular war that was started on false pretenses and is continuing to chew up resources since we can't just leave whenever we want to.
Additionally, being anti-military is easy if you don't know anyone in the military and the only sources of news about the military you get are either on one extreme of highly jingoistic news stories come recruitment ads of The Troops eating terrorists and sh*tting diamonds and the opposite extreme of sensationalized stories of soldiers doing their jobs and doing them right and yet still being painted as having committed some kind of perceived atrocity.
Its hard to form a positive opinion of the military if you've never been in it, don't know anyone in it, and just hear about all of the bad sh*t that happens therein.
Reading this thread just makes me feel so lucky i'm one of those people who are motivated and enjoy accomplishing something worthwhile. The rest of you suck.
You will have to fail a lot before you can get what you want bro. You can't expect it there on a platter for you.
You'll die just like the rest of us, and your sh*t stinks just as bad. I'm glad you find fulfillment in your lifestyle, but don't look down on others when nothing anyone does will ever really matter anyway.
Reading this thread just makes me feel so lucky i'm one of those people who are motivated and enjoy accomplishing something worthwhile. The rest of you suck.
You will have to fail a lot before you can get what you want bro. You can't expect it there on a platter for you.
>>enjoy accomplishing something worthwhile.
It's all relative. To you, it might mean 100k job, nice house and car, while a nigglet in Africa it's having 3 bowls of soup a day.
Here's a blog of a lawyer who quit his job and lived a simple life:
http://www.adviceenturesinvoluntarysimplicity.blogspot.com/
The push for the recently popularity of college isn't by accident; it was the Jewish bankers agenda all along.
It's not the "government's money" since the American government borrows it's money from the Federal Reserve, which is owned by an International Jewish Banking Cartel.
Enjoy paying interest money to the Jews.
Move along ladies and gentleman, troll here. Please, don't reply to him.
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Each personality type is essential to the world. You need ambitious people to constantly improve and innovate on ideas, but you equally need unambitious people to maintain these things. Without unambitious people to do the jobs the more ambitious people could never be content with, our entire society would fall apart.
Hopefully automation will change that.
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Ambitionf**, reporting in.
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We win obviously, lets meet up after this thread for some drinks, cocaine, and debauchery on Bush's yacht.
Hey, I'm in the same boat as you, OP.
I've read that book recently (thanks to the Anon who shared it), and I don't really see how my life is supposed to 'benefit' from going to college and getting a degree in something that I will more or less f**king hate in ten years.
I'm doing a Classics degree, something from the Liberal Arts. It's difficult in its own way, but at least I'm doing something that's tolerable to me (and not on my dime either).
It's like in Fight Club in how we're not our job, we're not the contents of our wallet, etc
If a girl seriously objects to what I do for a living, then so f**king be it. She's not worth my time. I have a really, really good friend who wanta to make a load of dough, so he's doing a business/marketing degree. Which of course, is fine. However, money isn't everything.
Remember the three F's: Friends, Family, and most importantly, Fun. It's about the simplest and most easy way to go about life.
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Hey, I'm in the same boat as you, OP.
I've read that book recently (thanks to the Anon who shared it), and I don't really see how my life is supposed to 'benefit' from going to college and getting a degree in something that I will more or less f**king hate in ten years.
I'm doing a Classics degree, something from the Liberal Arts. It's difficult in its own way, but at least I'm doing something that's tolerable to me (and not on my dime either).
It's like in Fight Club in how we're not our job, we're not the contents of our wallet, etc
If a girl seriously objects to what I do for a living, then so f**king be it. She's not worth my time. I have a really, really good friend who wanta to make a load of dough, so he's doing a business/marketing degree. Which of course, is fine. However, money isn't everything.
Remember the three F's: Friends, Family, and most importantly, Fun. It's about the simplest and most easy way to go about life.
F IS FOR FRIENDS WHO
DO STUFF TOGETHER
U IS FOR YOU AND ME
N is for ni**ers
There's nothing inherently wrong with it, it's just that humans are naturally ambitious. Look at the massive leaps we're constantly making in every field, it's human nature to be as motivated as you possible can while you're alive. When someone who is clearly unambitious, and not depressed/unhappy about it, it confuses people. That's the biggest perceived problem with the current generation.
I wouldn't call mankind "extremely ambitious". In fact, most "leaps" are forced on us. And with every new discovery or invention we've always gone against it while kicking and screaming.
The only reason people accuse OP from wasting his time is because he's going against the grain. It's the social stigma of not getting a degree or not pursuing a career that makes people judge ones happiness solely on these variables. "He's not going too college?!"... "He'll end up unhappy for sure!".
Personally i don't care. The only opinions i care about are from the people close to me. But i can definitely see why it would bother some.
Still, it's just the way it is. Everybody willing enough to pursue happiness by going against the grain know what they're getting themselves into.
OP, don't worry about it. Keep doing what you're doing if you're happy.
Hey, I'm in the same boat as you, OP.
I've read that book recently (thanks to the Anon who shared it), and I don't really see how my life is supposed to 'benefit' from going to college and getting a degree in something that I will more or less f**king hate in ten years.
I'm doing a Classics degree, something from the Liberal Arts. It's difficult in its own way, but at least I'm doing something that's tolerable to me (and not on my dime either).
It's like in Fight Club in how we're not our job, we're not the contents of our wallet, etc
If a girl seriously objects to what I do for a living, then so f**king be it. She's not worth my time. I have a really, really good friend who wanta to make a load of dough, so he's doing a business/marketing degree. Which of course, is fine. However, money isn't everything.
Remember the three F's: Friends, Family, and most importantly, Fun. It's about the simplest and most easy way to go about life.
But I get less satisfaction taking the "easy" way, as you state it.
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Ambitionlessf** reporting.
Drinking a beer after a long day's work and not giving a f**k.
I wouldn't call mankind "extremely ambitious". In fact, most "leaps" are forced on us. And with every new discovery or invention we've always gone against it while kicking and screaming.
The only reason people accuse OP from wasting his time is because he's going against the grain. It's the social stigma of not getting a degree or not pursuing a career that makes people judge ones happiness solely on these variables. "He's not going too college?!"... "He'll end up unhappy for sure!".
Personally i don't care. The only opinions i care about are from the people close to me. But i can definitely see why it would bother some.
Still, it's just the way it is. Everybody willing enough to pursue happiness by going against the grain know what they're getting themselves into.
OP, don't worry about it. Keep doing what you're doing if you're happy.
OP actually seems like an interesting, well-to-do person. There are a lot of basement dwellers here though that just outright disgust me.
But I get less satisfaction taking the "easy" way, as you state it.
Ni**er -- just do what you like.
Have any females posted in this thread yet?
I want to hear a female's opinion on this kind of lifestyle, before I decide to enjoy life in the same way.
But I get less satisfaction taking the "easy" way, as you state it.
Its how you're wired, Anon. Some feel driven to achieve success and fame, others are driven to do what the enjoy whether that makes them succesful or not.
And then there are people who fit right in the sweet spot of that particular Venn diagram.
Have any females posted in this thread yet?
I want to hear a female's opinion on this kind of lifestyle, before I decide to enjoy life in the same way.
You won't allow yourself to enjoy life simply because you're worried about what other people think about said life?
OP actually seems like an interesting, well-to-do person. There are a lot of basement dwellers here though that just outright disgust me.
And that's yours too think. I can't say for sure since i can't be bothered to read the entire thread, but i assume some anons have posted about them being unemployed and cashing in unemployment just because they lack the motivation to take up a job.
And to some extend that also disgusts me.
But who am i to judge if they're actually happy.
No matter how you cut it, there will always be people who take adviceantage of the system. If it's not the sh*t tier (unrightfull unemployment or welfare takers)...it'll be higher up with millionaires trying to dodge taxes.
Besides, i've given up on worrying about things i cannot change as it can only cause stress and unhappiness.
You won't allow yourself to enjoy life simply because you're worried about what other people think about said life?
I know it sounds bad, but I don't want to die alone.
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Ambition f** reporting, not going to get a picture because i'm off to practice piano
f**k year
Have any females posted in this thread yet?
I want to hear a female's opinion on this kind of lifestyle, before I decide to enjoy life in the same way.
I'd like to hear why you think there would be a distinction between males and females having the same mindset.
Even more so, i'd like to know why you seek conformation from others that this would be the right mindset.
I know it sounds bad, but I don't want to die alone.
Don't let women have so much power of you, anon!
YOU CAN BE FREE OF YOUR VAGINAL CHAINS
I know it sounds bad, but I don't want to die alone.
If you don't want to, then you won't. Simple as that.
But you're going to have a hell of a time attracting women if you're unhappy.
I wouldn't be attracted to an unmotivated guy because I simply find ambition and having dreams much more attractive... It's something I can relate to, I guess? It wouldn't really matter what their goal was, they could want to be the next greatest starving artist or rich with no morals, I wouldn't care and I've dated both kinds. It's especially adorable if they have an almost naiive overenthusiam to be the best at their subject of choice, because that's how I am.
They just have to have some kind of drive, nobody wants to be around a lazy person that justs sits around and plays videogames all day.
I know it sounds bad, but I don't want to die alone.
If you don't want to die alone, don't do something that makes you unhappy. Rather do something that makes you HAPPY.
I've heard "happy" people are a lot more fun to hang out with then their counterparts.
I get the same sh*t OP. I'm 25 and work a retail management job with people I enjoy. I make enough money to pay my bills, drive a sports car, and go out a couple nights a week and still save a couple hundred or so a month. Like most people on this board like to think of themselves, I was a smart-ass back in school whom everyone thought would amount to everything. I still get people who knew me in high school who run into me at work and ask, "Why aren't you at NASA?" I went to college for a year but ended up dropping out after I discovered it was just as much bullsh*t as public school.
So basically I have no direction in life and no real ambitions. Sure everyone would like to be rich and famous, but I don't feel like undergoing the stress accompanied by pursuing as much. I'm perfectly content where I am. Work. Sleep. Eat. Vidya. Go party on the weekends. What's wrong with that? I catch flak from a lot of friends and family on account of it though. But I don't feel like I need to cure cancer or own white picket fences so long as I'm content with my day-to-day life.
I wouldn't be attracted to an unmotivated guy because I simply find ambition and having dreams much more attractive... It's something I can relate to, I guess? It wouldn't really matter what their goal was, they could want to be the next greatest starving artist or rich with no morals, I wouldn't care and I've dated both kinds. It's especially adorable if they have an almost naiive overenthusiam to be the best at their subject of choice, because that's how I am.
They just have to have some kind of drive, nobody wants to be around a lazy person that justs sits around and plays videogames all day.
>nobody wants to be around a lazy person that justs sits around and plays videogames all day
Maybe you don't, sis.
I wouldn't be attracted to an unmotivated guy because I simply find ambition and having dreams much more attractive... It's something I can relate to, I guess? It wouldn't really matter what their goal was, they could want to be the next greatest starving artist or rich with no morals, I wouldn't care and I've dated both kinds. It's especially adorable if they have an almost naiive overenthusiam to be the best at their subject of choice, because that's how I am.
They just have to have some kind of drive, nobody wants to be around a lazy person that justs sits around and plays videogames all day.
Well, i for one know a lot of "unambitious" people.
And while they're not ambitious about "succeeding at a career choice" or "being the worlds best musician", they usually have smaller goals. Like buying a special car or totally nailing that trick the next time you go snowboarding.
Wouldn't that be ambitious too? Just on a different level.
I get the same sh*t OP. I'm 25 and work a retail management job with people I enjoy. I make enough money to pay my bills, drive a sports car, and go out a couple nights a week and still save a couple hundred or so a month. Like most people on this board like to think of themselves, I was a smart-ass back in school whom everyone thought would amount to everything. I still get people who knew me in high school who run into me at work and ask, "Why aren't you at NASA?" I went to college for a year but ended up dropping out after I discovered it was just as much bullsh*t as public school.
So basically I have no direction in life and no real ambitions. Sure everyone would like to be rich and famous, but I don't feel like undergoing the stress accompanied by pursuing as much. I'm perfectly content where I am. Work. Sleep. Eat. Vidya. Go party on the weekends. What's wrong with that? I catch flak from a lot of friends and family on account of it though. But I don't feel like I need to cure cancer or own white picket fences so long as I'm content with my day-to-day life.
talent and smarts are worthless unless used. potential is nothing
I wouldn't be attracted to an unmotivated guy because I simply find ambition and having dreams much more attractive... It's something I can relate to, I guess? It wouldn't really matter what their goal was, they could want to be the next greatest starving artist or rich with no morals, I wouldn't care and I've dated both kinds. It's especially adorable if they have an almost naiive overenthusiam to be the best at their subject of choice, because that's how I am.
They just have to have some kind of drive, nobody wants to be around a lazy person that justs sits around and plays videogames all day.
ambition gets the females wet--case and point.
Well, i for one know a lot of "unambitious" people.
And while they're not ambitious about "succeeding at a career choice" or "being the worlds best musician", they usually have smaller goals. Like buying a special car or totally nailing that trick the next time you go snowboarding.
Wouldn't that be ambitious too? Just on a different level.
I would consider those ambitions. I think what I meant is that they have to have hobbies of some kind that distinguish them, and things to look forward to in their future. I have met guys that literally do just play videogames all day and don't care about their future. These are people that aren't going to be taken interesting places, metaphorically, in their lives, and so I'm not sure I would wish to stick around and live things through with them.
But since I'm a person with big, naiive dreams and a good work ethic, I prefer to date guys that are like that. It's a personal preference because I feel like an unmotivated person would just scoff at me for having these ambitions.
That's about me, right now. -3 years.
I'd much rather work a dead-end job that pays for what I want/need, and do what I enjoy and be happy, than to live my job for the sake of money to buy things I don't need.
I get the same sh*t OP. I'm 25 and work a retail management job with people I enjoy. I make enough money to pay my bills, drive a sports car, and go out a couple nights a week and still save a couple hundred or so a month. Like most people on this board like to think of themselves, I was a smart-ass back in school whom everyone thought would amount to everything. I still get people who knew me in high school who run into me at work and ask, "Why aren't you at NASA?" I went to college for a year but ended up dropping out after I discovered it was just as much bullsh*t as public school.
So basically I have no direction in life and no real ambitions. Sure everyone would like to be rich and famous, but I don't feel like undergoing the stress accompanied by pursuing as much. I'm perfectly content where I am. Work. Sleep. Eat. Vidya. Go party on the weekends. What's wrong with that? I catch flak from a lot of friends and family on account of it though. But I don't feel like I need to cure cancer or own white picket fences so long as I'm content with my day-to-day life.
The only true way of becoming a millionaire is by sheer luck. Like winning the lottery or digging up a pirate's treasure chest.
Since by going the other route, and actually work hard, you'll be a completely changed person by the time you make your first million.
You will not be able to enjoy it that much, it went accompanied with a lot of stress and by working hard to make your first million you've met multi-millionaires or even billionaires.
Now being a millionaire isn't enough anymore. You don't want that ultra high def plasma tv your neighbor had, now you want that 4 million villa one of your peers at work has.
It's a vicious circle.
What's wrong with being unmotivated, anonymous?
I'm a 22 year old guy, and I'm pretty much the perfect example of someone who has no real motivation, goal, or direction in my life, and yet I enjoy it immensely. I recently heard about the book Boys Adrift, which comments on how teenagers/young adults are becoming more and more unmotivated, and I have trouble understanding why this is such a bad thing.
I work every week, it's a relaxing shop job in a small town, but it pays for my food and rent. I have no ambition to try to follow a career or go to college, because I don't want the stress and the massive debt I would build up from the student loans I would need to take out to go to college.
In my free time, I practice instruments, work on my art skills, hiking, camping, etc. I'd say my life is extremely relaxing and a lot of fun, but according to a lot of people, I'm completely pissing away my life because I'm content with where I am, and have no ambition to improve past this point, as far as pursuing a career.
Is that boys adrift book worth anything? I'm a dude lost in life, wondering what's up.
Is that boys adrift book worth anything? I'm a dude lost in life, wondering what's up.
No the book sucks. Go read "Buddhism isn't what you think" its a practical guide to life.
talent and smarts are worthless unless used. potential is nothing
ambition gets the females wet--case and point.
It's case in point f**kwad. You also should provide an example. That's the whole god damn idea behind that phrase.
I wouldn't be attracted to an unmotivated guy because I simply find ambition and having dreams much more attractive... It's something I can relate to, I guess? It wouldn't really matter what their goal was, they could want to be the next greatest starving artist or rich with no morals, I wouldn't care and I've dated both kinds. It's especially adorable if they have an almost naiive overenthusiam to be the best at their subject of choice, because that's how I am.
They just have to have some kind of drive, nobody wants to be around a lazy person that justs sits around and plays videogames all day.
>they could want to be the next greatest starving artist
All lies.
Females only see career orientated ambition. Just look at all of the females who laugh at art degrees.
To be completely honest, I think this does have a lot to do with the entertainment saturation (video games movies) and the liberal "everything is good. nothing is bad. dont succeed unless you want to" attitude.
This is 100% accurate.
being ambitious actually gets sh*t done. saving up for a ps3 or learning guitar doesnt do sh*t. discovering some new electromagnetic phenomenon or coming up with an incredibly efficient algorithm allows people to use that and make the world a better place. what if everyone said f**k it, ill just gather these here rocks and never attempted to learn about the world around me. the world would suck dick compared to today.
I would consider those ambitions. I think what I meant is that they have to have hobbies of some kind that distinguish them, and things to look forward to in their future. I have met guys that literally do just play videogames all day and don't care about their future. These are people that aren't going to be taken interesting places, metaphorically, in their lives, and so I'm not sure I would wish to stick around and live things through with them.
But since I'm a person with big, naiive dreams and a good work ethic, I prefer to date guys that are like that. It's a personal preference because I feel like an unmotivated person would just scoff at me for having these ambitions.
How would you describe OP? Ambitious, since he seems to have an interest in music/art?
I'm pretty much exactly the same, and I always thought of myself as an unambitious person since I had no career goals.
I honestly always thought it's just how you're wired. Some people are wired to be hard workers.. some aren't. I mean, it's not the ni**ers fault that they're lazy.. they're just ni**ers!
I would consider those ambitions. I think what I meant is that they have to have hobbies of some kind that distinguish them, and things to look forward to in their future. I have met guys that literally do just play videogames all day and don't care about their future. These are people that aren't going to be taken interesting places, metaphorically, in their lives, and so I'm not sure I would wish to stick around and live things through with them.
But since I'm a person with big, naiive dreams and a good work ethic, I prefer to date guys that are like that. It's a personal preference because I feel like an unmotivated person would just scoff at me for having these ambitions.
My brain is pleeaaased with your answer.
Just to steer the thread a bit more ontopic.
The only reason i aspire to go back to college is because no matter how you cut it, having a degree will result in higher pay.
But unlike most college graduates i won't be chasing money, but freedom. If i'm able to work parttime and still be able to make a decent living i'm happy. If i would get a raise, i wouldn't work harder or make longer days to get another raise... i'd work less since i would afford too.
being ambitious actually gets sh*t done. saving up for a ps3 or learning guitar doesnt do sh*t. discovering some new electromagnetic phenomenon or coming up with an incredibly efficient algorithm allows people to use that and make the world a better place. what if everyone said f**k it, ill just gather these here rocks and never attempted to learn about the world around me. the world would suck dick compared to today.
>would suck dick compared to today.
The world wouldn't be a hideous polluted mess, and even simple things would seem fascinating and magical.
This nation of profit has no place for me within its ranks.
So, f**k them, I'm starting my own goddamn country!
ITT we pledge allegiance to the U.S. of Human.
Approaching Western Mentality = Enjoy life. Relax. Don't force yourself into a career.
Eastern Mentality = Ambitious. Succeed in life. Make humanity proud.
This is the fall of Rome, albeit more passive and slow. The barbarians are our minds.
holy sh*t this bastard just nailed it on the head
Motivation means having a reason to do something.
For example, you might have a reason to sleep. Therefore, you sleep. You can be described as being motivated to sleep.
In the same way, you can be motivated to study or to not study. To work or not to work. If you have decided on one course of action then you can be called motivated to do that action.
But this decisionmaking process in your brain depends on your beliefs. Most people don't even know their own beliefs. They might think they know - for example, they might think that they want to study - but in fact, they do not want to study as much they want to play games.
I personally don't work hard because I see no benefit to doing so. Hard work does not lead to wealth, in general. Of course there are exceptions, but those are rare. The fact is that there is no incentive in most Western countries to work any harder or pursue a career, because those who do so end up as cubicle slaves to a corporate oligarchy.
And in Asia, just because people work long hours doesn't mean they work hard. Those people don't work very hard, they procrastinate and waste time at work while trying to keep up the appearance of working- a typically Asian farce.
Face it, upward economic mobility has always been a matter of luck, and now is largely a matter of business politics.
being ambitious actually gets sh*t done. saving up for a ps3 or learning guitar doesnt do sh*t. discovering some new electromagnetic phenomenon or coming up with an incredibly efficient algorithm allows people to use that and make the world a better place. what if everyone said f**k it, ill just gather these here rocks and never attempted to learn about the world around me. the world would suck dick compared to today.
It would be very unlikely for someone who would be capable of doing something like that to get themselves into OP's situation.
Approaching Western Mentality = Enjoy life. Relax. Don't force yourself into a career.
Eastern Mentality = Ambitious. Succeed in life. Make humanity proud.
This is the fall of Rome, albeit more passive and slow. The barbarians are our minds.
They really don't give much more of a f**k than we do. Look at Japan. As soon as Japan became a developed country, it stopped giving a f**k
ITT: Pedantary garbage.
What all this really represents is the downfall and decay of our society due to moral decay. We have forgotten what we stand for, in the moralistic goal of eliminating the pain and suffering of humanity we have created a perpetual ennui where we are not forced to strive or hope for anything.
OP, thanks for that picture. I'm going to read that f**ker.
...Yeah I'm living with my fiance and have a decent job in IT...but I'm unmotivated as all f**k.
What's wrong with being unmotivated, anonymous?
I'm a 22 year old guy, and I'm pretty much the perfect example of someone who has no real motivation, goal, or direction in my life, and yet I enjoy it immensely. I recently heard about the book Boys Adrift, which comments on how teenagers/young adults are becoming more and more unmotivated, and I have trouble understanding why this is such a bad thing.
I work every week, it's a relaxing shop job in a small town, but it pays for my food and rent. I have no ambition to try to follow a career or go to college, because I don't want the stress and the massive debt I would build up from the student loans I would need to take out to go to college.
In my free time, I practice instruments, work on my art skills, hiking, camping, etc. I'd say my life is extremely relaxing and a lot of fun, but according to a lot of people, I'm completely pissing away my life because I'm content with where I am, and have no ambition to improve past this point, as far as pursuing a career.
as long as your comfy with where you are, who's to say anything different. Granted this is coming from a student working on a graduate degree, working two jobs and shooting to start up an LLC by mid-august.
Different strokes for different folks.
ITT: Pedantary garbage.
What all this really represents is the downfall and decay of our society due to moral decay. We have forgotten what we stand for, in the moralistic goal of eliminating the pain and suffering of humanity we have created a perpetual ennui where we are not forced to strive or hope for anything.
What's your definition of humanity?
What's your definition of humanity?
The culmination of 4.8 billion years of ruthless competition to survive.
>they could want to be the next greatest starving artist
All lies.
Females only see career orientated ambition. Just look at all of the females who laugh at art degrees.
I posted that and I have an art degree. :/
HOWEVER, I was talking about dating. Would I consider a starving artist marriage material? Probably not, financial troubles are the leading cause of divorce and I would want to save myself from a potentially unstable situation.
What's your definition of humanity?
Or even better... who fall under the category that is humanity?
(I might of given away where i'm going with this now.)
I personally don't work hard because I see no benefit to doing so. Hard work does not lead to wealth, in general. Of course there are exceptions, but those are rare. The fact is that there is no incentive in most Western countries to work any harder or pursue a career, because those who do so end up as cubicle slaves to a corporate oligarchy.
And in Asia, just because people work long hours doesn't mean they work hard. Those people don't work very hard, they procrastinate and waste time at work while trying to keep up the appearance of working- a typically Asian farce.
Face it, upward economic mobility has always been a matter of luck, and now is largely a matter of business politics.
Your a middle-class American with an Internet connection, honestly, you have so much god damn opportunity.
Why the f**k do you think people from around the world flock to the United States? BECAUSE IF YOU WORK HARD IT PAYS OFF JESUS MOTHERF**KING CHRIST.
The culmination of 4.8 billion years of ruthless competition to survive.
Ah, so you see humanity as the constant struggle too exceed and abolish everything that stands in its way.
Your a middle-class American with an Internet connection, honestly, you have so much god damn opportunity.
Why the f**k do you think people from around the world flock to the United States? BECAUSE IF YOU WORK HARD IT PAYS OFF JESUS MOTHERF**KING CHRIST.
How so?
howsoplox
Your a middle-class American with an Internet connection, honestly, you have so much god damn opportunity.
Why the f**k do you think people from around the world flock to the United States? BECAUSE IF YOU WORK HARD IT PAYS OFF JESUS MOTHERF**KING CHRIST.
Myth. At least now.
The glaring flaw of the book "Boy Adrift" is the whole book is based within culture context.
If the author's writing was put within a framework of a primitive African tribe it would make no f**king sense.
In short, he's an idealist American.
No sh*t? Gee, thanks for clearing that up...
Obviously, it's a book about a specific culture you f**kwit.
The book is more aimed at boys like myself, 19, and unable to acquire empolyment and afraid to pursue responsibility and freedom. OP's got nothing to worry about.
Approaching Western Mentality = Enjoy life. Relax. Don't force yourself into a career.
Eastern Mentality = Ambitious. Succeed in life. Make humanity proud.
This is the fall of Rome, albeit more passive and slow. The barbarians are our minds.
Approaching Western Mentality = Enjoy life. Relax. Don't force yourself into a career.
Eastern Mentality = Ambitious. Succeed in life. Make humanity proud.
This is the fall of Rome, albeit more passive and slow. The barbarians are our minds.
As a 4th Generation white American I look around and see that my peers have lost their immigrant spunk. I myself have luckily retained it.
We need to start paying off our parents and grandparents debt boys and girls.
America is going down like Rome unless complacentf**s figure out what direction up is and start climbing.
Your a middle-class American with an Internet connection, honestly, you have so much god damn opportunity.
Why the f**k do you think people from around the world flock to the United States? BECAUSE IF YOU WORK HARD IT PAYS OFF JESUS MOTHERF**KING CHRIST.
They don't understand, they are spoiled little bourgeoisie manchildren who have been betrayed by a society that has led them against all that is right and just for them.
They are lazy pseudo-philosophical hacks who don't even understand just how completely f**ked they are going to be in the future when they wake up in a society that doesn't want or need them.
ITT: Pedantary garbage.
What all this really represents is the downfall and decay of our society due to moral decay. We have forgotten what we stand for, in the moralistic goal of eliminating the pain and suffering of humanity we have created a perpetual ennui where we are not forced to strive or hope for anything.
Decay, of what? What you perceive as morals and as achievements of humanity are ephemeral and meaningless. This is the attitude that keeps people mired in hopelessness.
F**k it all, do what you want. The world will end one day or another. I'm not wasting my life piling up leaves for no reason only to have them blown away.
They don't understand, they are spoiled little bourgeoisie manchildren who have been betrayed by a society that has led them against all that is right and just for them.
They are lazy pseudo-philosophical hacks who don't even understand just how completely f**ked they are going to be in the future when they wake up in a society that doesn't want or need them.
It amazes me sometimes.... I think that if all of these complacent motherf**kers traveled to a 3rd world or developing country they would realize...
I traveled to a developing country and returned to America, I work hard now because I know that there are literally billions of people who would kill to be in the spot I'm at right now, and I'M NOT GOING TO THROW IT AWAY.
They don't understand, they are spoiled little bourgeoisie manchildren who have been betrayed by a society that has led them against all that is right and just for them.
They are lazy pseudo-philosophical hacks who don't even understand just how completely f**ked they are going to be in the future when they wake up in a society that doesn't want or need them.
>against all that is right and just
'Fraid not.
>wake up in a society that doesn't want or need them
This is already the case. Thus, the apathy.
They don't understand, they are spoiled little bourgeoisie manchildren who have been betrayed by a society that has led them against all that is right and just for them.
They are lazy pseudo-philosophical hacks who don't even understand just how completely f**ked they are going to be in the future when they wake up in a society that doesn't want or need them.
sounds just like me,i also have aspergers and add,feels bad man
>WORK FOR IT'S OWN SAKE IS THE HIGHEST VIRTUE HURRRRR
Decay, of what? What you perceive as morals and as achievements of humanity are ephemeral and meaningless. This is the attitude that keeps people mired in hopelessness.
F**k it all, do what you want. The world will end one day or another. I'm not wasting my life piling up leaves for no reason only to have them blown away.
It doesn't matter you f**king moronic nihilist, you are chasing your own tail with that attitude.
It doesn't matter you f**king moronic nihilist, you are chasing your own tail with that attitude.
worry not, those types don't reproduce often and will eventually be selected out
It doesn't matter you f**king moronic nihilist, you are chasing your own tail with that attitude.
>implying nihilism isn't true
It amazes me sometimes.... I think that if all of these complacent motherf**kers traveled to a 3rd world or developing country they would realize...
I traveled to a developing country and returned to America, I work hard now because I know that there are literally billions of people who would kill to be in the spot I'm at right now, and I'M NOT GOING TO THROW IT AWAY.
>I'M NOT GOING TO THROW IT AWAY.
And yet you do the same exact thing by working your entire life.
People in third world countries work so they can eventually be happy. You work for no reason other than to work. If you want to take adviceantage of the country you've been born in, then enjoy it as much as you can.
Ambition:
desire for work or activity; energy
an earnest desire for some type of achievement or distinction, as power, honor, fame, or wealth, and the willingness to strive for its attainment
So basically, for ambtionlessf**s, working is simply a means to an end, whereas for ambitionf**s, working IS the end.
worry not, those types don't reproduce often and will eventually be selected out
Yes, and most of anonymous is evidence of that. They are sensitive, ambitionless little children who bitch about their own penis size and inability to succeed with women who are mired in their own self-indulged and small-minded fantasies while individuals with IQ's 20-30 points less then theirs don't have to worry such a level of bothersome introspection.
>implying nihilism isn't true
You're not getting it, it doesn't matter whether it's true or not, that doesn't mean anything. It's what you do with it that matters.
You're not getting it, it doesn't matter whether it's true or not, that doesn't mean anything. It's what you do with it that matters.
>matters
nuh-uh
>matters
nuh-uh
>implying nihilism isn't true
Decay, of what? What you perceive as morals and as achievements of humanity are ephemeral and meaningless. This is the attitude that keeps people mired in hopelessness.
F**k it all, do what you want. The world will end one day or another. I'm not wasting my life piling up leaves for no reason only to have them blown away.
Ignore the Nihilists my friend, for they are but Trolls!
Ignore the Nihilists my friend, for they are but Trolls!
>Nihilists
>trolls
Not really, they realize the fundamental truth but do nothing more, as opposed to someone who rebels in vain.
OH MY F**KING GOD. ARE ALL OF YOU UNAMBITIOUS F**KS SERIOUS? DO YOU KNOW HOW F**KING HARD THE REST OF THE WORLD HAS IT? YOU SPOILED CHILDREN OF THE F**KING WEST. THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEGUN TO LOST MOTIVATION ARE YOU GUYS. NOTHING HAS CHANGED EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT SINCE THE STANDARD OF LIVING HAS FINALLY BEGUN TO RISE IN OTHER COUNTRIES, US AMERICANS ACTUALLY HAVE TO WORK HARDER.
WORK HARDER? BUT HOW? I AM A FA**OT!
HURRRR F**KING QUIT YOUR HIPSTER BULLSH*T AND GO OUTSIDE. GET AN EDUCATION. DECIDE HOW TO MAKE YOUR MARK ON THIS F**KING WORLD. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT LESS THAN A HUNDRED YEARS TO SHOW THE WORLD WHAT THE F**K YOU'RE MADE OF.
OH MY F**KING GOD. ARE ALL OF YOU UNAMBITIOUS F**KS SERIOUS? DO YOU KNOW HOW F**KING HARD THE REST OF THE WORLD HAS IT? YOU SPOILED CHILDREN OF THE F**KING WEST. THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEGUN TO LOST MOTIVATION ARE YOU GUYS. NOTHING HAS CHANGED EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT SINCE THE STANDARD OF LIVING HAS FINALLY BEGUN TO RISE IN OTHER COUNTRIES, US AMERICANS ACTUALLY HAVE TO WORK HARDER.
WORK HARDER? BUT HOW? I AM A FA**OT!
HURRRR F**KING QUIT YOUR HIPSTER BULLSH*T AND GO OUTSIDE. GET AN EDUCATION. DECIDE HOW TO MAKE YOUR MARK ON THIS F**KING WORLD. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT LESS THAN A HUNDRED YEARS TO SHOW THE WORLD WHAT THE F**K YOU'RE MADE OF.
OH MY F**KING GOD. ARE ALL OF YOU UNAMBITIOUS F**KS SERIOUS? DO YOU KNOW HOW F**KING HARD THE REST OF THE WORLD HAS IT? YOU SPOILED CHILDREN OF THE F**KING WEST. THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEGUN TO LOST MOTIVATION ARE YOU GUYS. NOTHING HAS CHANGED EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT SINCE THE STANDARD OF LIVING HAS FINALLY BEGUN TO RISE IN OTHER COUNTRIES, US AMERICANS ACTUALLY HAVE TO WORK HARDER.
WORK HARDER? BUT HOW? I AM A FA**OT!
HURRRR F**KING QUIT YOUR HIPSTER BULLSH*T AND GO OUTSIDE. GET AN EDUCATION. DECIDE HOW TO MAKE YOUR MARK ON THIS F**KING WORLD. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT LESS THAN A HUNDRED YEARS TO SHOW THE WORLD WHAT THE F**K YOU'RE MADE OF.
lose** motivation. and yes, I MAD
OH MY F**KING GOD. ARE ALL OF YOU UNAMBITIOUS F**KS SERIOUS? DO YOU KNOW HOW F**KING HARD THE REST OF THE WORLD HAS IT? YOU SPOILED CHILDREN OF THE F**KING WEST. THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEGUN TO LOST MOTIVATION ARE YOU GUYS. NOTHING HAS CHANGED EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT SINCE THE STANDARD OF LIVING HAS FINALLY BEGUN TO RISE IN OTHER COUNTRIES, US AMERICANS ACTUALLY HAVE TO WORK HARDER.
WORK HARDER? BUT HOW? I AM A FA**OT!
HURRRR F**KING QUIT YOUR HIPSTER BULLSH*T AND GO OUTSIDE. GET AN EDUCATION. DECIDE HOW TO MAKE YOUR MARK ON THIS F**KING WORLD. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT LESS THAN A HUNDRED YEARS TO SHOW THE WORLD WHAT THE F**K YOU'RE MADE OF.
>implying third-world countries don't have unambitious people
>implying third-world countries don't have unambitious people
>implying third-world countries don't have unambitious people
>implying third-world countries don't have unambitious people
have you ever been to a third-world country?
OH MY F**KING GOD. ARE ALL OF YOU UNAMBITIOUS F**KS SERIOUS? DO YOU KNOW HOW F**KING HARD THE REST OF THE WORLD HAS IT? YOU SPOILED CHILDREN OF THE F**KING WEST. THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEGUN TO LOST MOTIVATION ARE YOU GUYS. NOTHING HAS CHANGED EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT SINCE THE STANDARD OF LIVING HAS FINALLY BEGUN TO RISE IN OTHER COUNTRIES, US AMERICANS ACTUALLY HAVE TO WORK HARDER.
WORK HARDER? BUT HOW? I AM A FA**OT!
HURRRR F**KING QUIT YOUR HIPSTER BULLSH*T AND GO OUTSIDE. GET AN EDUCATION. DECIDE HOW TO MAKE YOUR MARK ON THIS F**KING WORLD. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT LESS THAN A HUNDRED YEARS TO SHOW THE WORLD WHAT THE F**K YOU'RE MADE OF.
>DECIDE HOW TO MAKE YOUR MARK ON THIS F**KING WORLD. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT LESS THAN A HUNDRED YEARS TO SHOW THE WORLD WHAT THE F**K YOU'RE MADE OF.
Why? There is no reason. Maybe some people have this need, but not everyone.
Am I supposed to work my ass off here in America to somehow help the people in less developed countries? Of course not. So their condition isn't relevant to me, and I'm not harming them.
If choose the extent to which I wish to work. There is no reason for me to do otherwise.
OH MY F**KING GOD. ARE ALL OF YOU UNAMBITIOUS F**KS SERIOUS? DO YOU KNOW HOW F**KING HARD THE REST OF THE WORLD HAS IT? YOU SPOILED CHILDREN OF THE F**KING WEST. THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEGUN TO LOST MOTIVATION ARE YOU GUYS. NOTHING HAS CHANGED EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT SINCE THE STANDARD OF LIVING HAS FINALLY BEGUN TO RISE IN OTHER COUNTRIES, US AMERICANS ACTUALLY HAVE TO WORK HARDER.
WORK HARDER? BUT HOW? I AM A FA**OT!
HURRRR F**KING QUIT YOUR HIPSTER BULLSH*T AND GO OUTSIDE. GET AN EDUCATION. DECIDE HOW TO MAKE YOUR MARK ON THIS F**KING WORLD. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT LESS THAN A HUNDRED YEARS TO SHOW THE WORLD WHAT THE F**K YOU'RE MADE OF.
Greatest post ever made on anonymous.
Arguing with these morons is like talking to a tree.
have you ever been to a third-world country?
No. Does it matter?
The point still stands. The West doesn't have a monopoly on people without ambition.
>DECIDE HOW TO MAKE YOUR MARK ON THIS F**KING WORLD. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT LESS THAN A HUNDRED YEARS TO SHOW THE WORLD WHAT THE F**K YOU'RE MADE OF.
Why? There is no reason. Maybe some people have this need, but not everyone.
Am I supposed to work my ass off here in America to somehow help the people in less developed countries? Of course not. So their condition isn't relevant to me, and I'm not harming them.
If choose the extent to which I wish to work. There is no reason for me to do otherwise.
Then I guess it makes it that much easier for me to accomplish my goals
No. Does it matter?
The point still stands. The West doesn't have a monopoly on people without ambition.
It doesn't have a monopoly. But I can assure you that millions of people wish that they could have what you have, and would be f**king horrified to see what you're doing right now.
Different people have different goals.
Everyone thinks everyone else is wrong.
It doesn't have a monopoly. But I can assure you that millions of people wish that they could have what you have, and would be f**king horrified to see what you're doing right now.
You think I don't realize that? If the trucks stopped coming tomorrow or if the pipes suddenly dried up I'd be a dead man. I live at the expense of other people.
But at the same time, do you think the majority of the people driving those trucks and maintaining those pipelines have any ambition whatsoever?
I'm not some lazy f** wasting all of my time in a basement playing WoW. I'm paying my bills and my taxes, fulfilling my responsibility to society and no, I don't take a single second of that for granted.
Same boat here OP.
I have a motherf**king degree in engineering, and if i wanted i could work my way up the ladder and make big bucks. BUT f**k that. it all work work work, no play. As I see it, you only get to rest once you retire if you take this work route in life. F**king stupid.
Im not going to use my engineering degree or my smart. Instead im quiting ngineering an going to work a simle low paying job. This to me is much more fullfulling that trying to compee in the ratrace bullsh*t society falls for.
OH MY F**KING GOD. ARE ALL OF YOU UNAMBITIOUS F**KS SERIOUS? DO YOU KNOW HOW F**KING HARD THE REST OF THE WORLD HAS IT? YOU SPOILED CHILDREN OF THE F**KING WEST. THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEGUN TO LOST MOTIVATION ARE YOU GUYS. NOTHING HAS CHANGED EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT SINCE THE STANDARD OF LIVING HAS FINALLY BEGUN TO RISE IN OTHER COUNTRIES, US AMERICANS ACTUALLY HAVE TO WORK HARDER.
WORK HARDER? BUT HOW? I AM A FA**OT!
HURRRR F**KING QUIT YOUR HIPSTER BULLSH*T AND GO OUTSIDE. GET AN EDUCATION. DECIDE HOW TO MAKE YOUR MARK ON THIS F**KING WORLD. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT LESS THAN A HUNDRED YEARS TO SHOW THE WORLD WHAT THE F**K YOU'RE MADE OF.
sure dude
I do hope you're giving all your money to starving african children by the way
If you are not feel free to take many dicks anally
You think I don't realize that? If the trucks stopped coming tomorrow or if the pipes suddenly dried up I'd be a dead man. I live at the expense of other people.
But at the same time, do you think the majority of the people driving those trucks and maintaining those pipelines have any ambition whatsoever?
I'm not some lazy f** wasting all of my time in a basement playing WoW. I'm paying my bills and my taxes, fulfilling my responsibility to society and no, I don't take a single second of that for granted.
Sorry. You sound like you know what you're doing. I was thinking more along the lines of many young people I see. It just drives me crazy when I see someone just out of highschool who has lived off of their parents and never done an honest day's work in their life have no motivation to make something more of themselves.
It's the new mindset humans are adapting. Success is starting to become measured in happiness, rather than monetary success. Within 100 years, I bet we will have not made many leaps as far as our technology. Humans are just becoming content with it. It's starting with the young males, and soon it will spread to the young females.
If I was to make a prediction, I foresee men living with their parents well into their thirties, while this generation of women will tend to marry older men because they still prefer an ambitious man. The next generation will be unambitious men and women, and the lifestyle of humanity will become increasingly more relaxed and slowed down.
>I foresee men living with their parents well into their thirties
This is perfectly normal in some of the more poorer countries, it's only taboo in western civilization because we have the luxurious obligation to rebel against our parents because since the war we have been indoctrinated with the idea individualism.
Because of that we have tons of depressed people, a need for tons of welfare, exploitation and injustice.
I dont notice a transition from a focus on money to happiness, money is becoming more and more synonymous with happiness actually it's just that you can get ALLOT of great stuff without being stinking rich now and that's why people might settle for less.
Former ambitionf** turned ambitionlessf** here. All those nights staying up late, working your ass off and having no life...it's not worth it in my opinion.
Former ambitionf** turned ambitionlessf** here. All those nights staying up late, working your ass off and having no life...it's not worth it in my opinion.
Not the way to do it.
Not the way to do it.
opinions opinioning opinions
Sorry. You sound like you know what you're doing. I was thinking more along the lines of many young people I see. It just drives me crazy when I see someone just out of highschool who has lived off of their parents and never done an honest day's work in their life have no motivation to make something more of themselves.
Its alright bro, I get where you're coming from.
I mean, if you're just lazing about, doing nothing and being a leech and a burden to other people, that's not being unambitious, that's simply being lazy.
Unambitious people are likeSame boat here OP.
I have a motherf**king degree in engineering, and if i wanted i could work my way up the ladder and make big bucks. BUT f**k that. it all work work work, no play. As I see it, you only get to rest once you retire if you take this work route in life. F**king stupid.
Im not going to use my engineering degree or my smart. Instead im quiting ngineering an going to work a simle low paying job. This to me is much more fullfulling that trying to compee in the ratrace bullsh*t society falls for.
People who certainly have the ability and the means, but not the will. Becoming, say, a doctor requires going to medical school for a full seven years and then having a three year residency. You have to have some iron f**king will to be able to do that. To give up a full tenth of your life for that. You have to eat, live, sleep and breath Doctor to make it through that, and many people certainly could do that, but choose not to, seeing the eventual benefits as just not worth it.
Either choice isn't wrong. Its just that, just a choice.
people who are saying things like GO TO COLLEGE YOU F**K YOU ARE SO LUCKY are pretty silly. these high paying hard science jobs are pretty selective- no matter how hard everybody works, only a minute portion of the people are going to be able to make a difference. it's just how it is. if people don't want to do that with their life, they shouldn't waste their time with it because it's probably a futile endeavor anyway.
there are other ways to make a difference, anyway. i want to go to college, but to learn sh*t, not to pursue some mindnumbing career. i want to spend my life volunteering abroad. maybe i'm not discovering new scientific phenomena but it's a job nonetheless.
What's wrong with being unmotivated, anonymous?
I'm a 22 year old guy, and I'm pretty much the perfect example of someone who has no real motivation, goal, or direction in my life, and yet I enjoy it immensely. I recently heard about the book Boys Adrift, which comments on how teenagers/young adults are becoming more and more unmotivated, and I have trouble understanding why this is such a bad thing.
I work every week, it's a relaxing shop job in a small town, but it pays for my food and rent. I have no ambition to try to follow a career or go to college, because I don't want the stress and the massive debt I would build up from the student loans I would need to take out to go to college.
In my free time, I practice instruments, work on my art skills, hiking, camping, etc. I'd say my life is extremely relaxing and a lot of fun, but according to a lot of people, I'm completely pissing away my life because I'm content with where I am, and have no ambition to improve past this point, as far as pursuing a career.
That actually sounds like a good life to me. There's nothing wrong with not going to college or having a career. If you can live your life comfortably working in a small shop, live on your own, and practice doing hobbies you enjoy, I don't see the problem at all.
Societal norms tell us that we must have a career and go to college to be considered successful and worthwhile human beings, but that is not always the case for everyone.
I'd be plenty motivated if there was a field of interest for me that actually worked as a career. But as far as my extensive searching has shown me, there really isn't. So here I am just trying to get the easiest of jobs not because I can't do harder things, but I just don't care.
Everyone tells me to just get a degree in something and life will be f**king dandy.
I'd be plenty motivated if there was a field of interest for me that actually worked as a career. But as far as my extensive searching has shown me, there really isn't. So here I am just trying to get the easiest of jobs not because I can't do harder things, but I just don't care.
Everyone tells me to just get a degree in something and life will be f**king dandy.
I'd just get an easy degree in something. Doesn't matter what it is, as long as it's easy. Looks good on a resume and in general might help you weasel your way into an easy job that pays a little more than the brutally difficult jobs people with less education end up in. College is no guarantee of success, though. Nor does it guarantee more earnings. It just allows you to work in boring, but easy jobs.
I'm 19, find college is just as bullsh*tty as highschool. Doing animation, and know I'd learn faster teaching myself. The coursework puts you off drawing, it's dull and uninteresting, and TBH I can't sit through two years of crap classes just to MAYBE be offered a job at the end. The job prospects seem souless. I just want to not go to college anymore and study on my own , try to make some money here and there, and learn to enjoy life. Eventually I know I could get make a living from art or music quite comfortably, and have some big ambitions for the future. But really, I've come to feel ok with myself to the extent that the egotistical boost that for instance, many rock stars have sought by pursuing their career, doesn't mean anything to me. If I were to achieve "great" things, I'd be more just as a result of enjoying my passions to the fullest.
I Diogenes of Sinope agree with you, un motivation is a virtue, get a pot and go and live in it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_of_Sinope
the 'books' like boys adrift' are puerile and ill thought out.
I Diogenes of Sinope agree with you, un motivation is a virtue, get a pot and go and live in it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_of_Sinope
the 'books' like boys adrift' are puerile and ill thought out.
"If I were not Alexander I would wish to be Diogenes"
Pretty good recommendation there.
I actually feel the same way sometimes. It all feels so pointless.
I mean, as long as I'm happy, who the f**k cares what I'm doing as long as it's not harming other people?
But btw, negative schizophrenia is characterized by an extreme lack of motivation. No hallucinations usually, just no motivation. I honestly don't see how this qualifies as a disease, but look it up.
Psych AP FTW!
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