I just don't get it. I just hate it when people I barely know, and in most of the cases I don't really want to know, ask me if I'm always that quiet. Today I was hanging around with some friends when a girl who knew my friends back from high school showed up and was with us for a while. She kept telling me to speak and say something to her. And she even asked my friends if I was always that quiet.
I really don't consider myself that introverted and once I get to know a person I can easily speak to them, mostly about common interests and so on. So should I talk more even if I don't say anything interesting? Or am I wrong for thinking about doing that?
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You're fine. She's just a moron.
People who are not introverted tend to have little respect for the boundaries of those of us who do not like to share our thoughts with complete strangers. I can't tell you how many times I've had people say "You're really quiet," or "You never talk," or the even more inappropriately demeaning and condescending "Say something." I spent years thinking there was something wrong with me, but now I realize these people are headcases with extreme delusions of likability, and they can all f**k off and die for all I care. Girls tend to be worse than guys, as they think they are somehow being generous by prying at me with their intrusive attention. They think they are showing concern, but in reality they just loathe being ignored and see all males as serving the sole purpose of entertaining them (I'm not generalizing about all girls, just the ones who pull this crap when I'm not in the mood to talk to strangers).
In short, talk as much as you f**king feel comfortable talking, and to hell with the sociopaths who feel the need to draw attention to your own social preferences.
I hate your type, you make everything awkward. Why can't you just make small talk?
I usually just keep my mouth shut if there's nothing interesting to say. Better to be quiet than be a loudmouth.
imagine a society where everyone is introverted
...
oh wait it wouldnt really be a society now would it
Don't blame us for pointing out that YOU feel uncomfortable if there is silence because you are so insecure as to whether you are coming off as the person you're trying to present yourself as that you can't stand not knowing if the other person wants anything to do with you. Small talk is for people with nothing worth hearing to say. Keep away from me.
I hate your type, you make everything awkward. Why can't you just make small talk?
I consider small talk to be a million times more awkward then silence. Theres nothing I hate more then talking to someone about the weather. Its like I know for a fact the neither of us really cares about the conversation that we're having but lets keep putting energy into it.
People that can't sit and enjoy silence are the wired ones. The people that constantly have to fill the air with mindless f**king chatter.
Oh andDon't blame us for pointing out that YOU feel uncomfortable if there is silence because you are so insecure as to whether you are coming off as the person you're trying to present yourself as that you can't stand not knowing if the other person wants anything to do with you. Small talk is for people with nothing worth hearing to say. Keep away from me.was directed atI hate your type, you make everything awkward. Why can't you just make small talk?.
I hate your type, you make everything awkward. Why can't you just make small talk?
introvertf** here; I don't mind making small talk but I hate it when people try to f**king force me to "open up". I can be plenty open and intimate with close friends and family but I don't like to do that with strangers and acquaintances. I have pride and a sense of privacy, two things which are no longer fashionable.
>today society
>Suggesting extroverts have not always been the master race
Don't blame us for pointing out that YOU feel uncomfortable if there is silence because you are so insecure as to whether you are coming off as the person you're trying to present yourself as that you can't stand not knowing if the other person wants anything to do with you. Small talk is for people with nothing worth hearing to say. Keep away from me.
>hurr I'm too smart to have pleasant conversations about everyday things
Please people not all of us introverts are like this.
I'm an introvert but I'm not quiet. Works out well.
Don't blame us for pointing out that YOU feel uncomfortable if there is silence because you are so insecure as to whether you are coming off as the person you're trying to present yourself as that you can't stand not knowing if the other person wants anything to do with you. Small talk is for people with nothing worth hearing to say. Keep away from me.
With that attitude it's probably best you stay quiet anyways.
imagine a society where everyone is introverted
...
oh wait it wouldnt really be a society now would it
I think it would be much more productive than an extroverted society.
Look at all the people that feel the need to be on reality TV, showing the world how unique they are, it's such a waste of energy. Facebook and twitter bring that kind of attention to anyone with a computer and internet access and it's just gotten way out of hand.
The funny thing is that extroverted people don't give a damn about what other extroverts have to say, they just want to say it the loudest so they can get a wider audience. Introverted people only care about saying what needs to be said and only to those that need to hear it.
ITT: introverts act like arrogant c**ks.
I'm ashamed of you. No wonder people don't like introverts if most of you are like this.
I think it would be much more productive than an extroverted society.
Look at all the people that feel the need to be on reality TV, showing the world how unique they are, it's such a waste of energy. Facebook and twitter bring that kind of attention to anyone with a computer and internet access and it's just gotten way out of hand.
The funny thing is that extroverted people don't give a damn about what other extroverts have to say, they just want to say it the loudest so they can get a wider audience. Introverted people only care about saying what needs to be said and only to those that need to hear it.
You're trying to rationalize your assburgers now...
>hurr I'm too smart to have pleasant conversations about everyday things
Please people not all of us introverts are like this.
At what point did I make any mention of the topics that compromise "small talk," you dumbf**k? I talk to my friends about the weather, or about any other inane thing you can think of, but I do so because it's on my mind and I feel like sharing my thoughts. I don't have any desire in talking to people just because it would be awkward not to say anything. Learn to read, you unbelievable sh*t-for-brains.
All these so called extroverted people defending the stupid sh*t they spew day in and day out.
No one cares. Just because someone is nodding and occasionaly responding does not mean they wouldn't rather kill themselves then give a f**k about you.
NOBODY EVER
METIONS THE WEATHER
TO MAKE OR BREAK YOUR DAYYYYYYY!
so i guess i'm introverted or something. I don't talk to people unless they talk to me. But then again, who cares.
I'm an introvert but I'm not quiet. Works out well.
I am as well, but only to cater to extroverts. When I am at work, if I could have things my own way, I would never speak and just do what I found most fun for me (watching TV, usually). I end up talking a lot to my coworkers because apparently, if they don't socialize, they get incredibly bored and aggravated.
I respect people uf they wanna be quiet, but I f**king can't stand it when I'm with my friends and we're all talking and there's some dude who's been hanging out with us the whole time, and he just follows us around and just looks at everyone and never says anything. He takes up space and it gets to the point to where he's so awkward that nobody wants him around. Soon our group gets to the point to where at lunch we have like 3 or 4 guys who sit at our table and just take up space. They just sit there and stare. So f**king awkward it makes me wanna punch a baby.
I respect people uf they wanna be quiet, but I f**king can't stand it when I'm with my friends and we're all talking and there's some dude who's been hanging out with us the whole time, and he just follows us around and just looks at everyone and never says anything. He takes up space and it gets to the point to where he's so awkward that nobody wants him around. Soon our group gets to the point to where at lunch we have like 3 or 4 guys who sit at our table and just take up space. They just sit there and stare. So f**king awkward it makes me wanna punch a baby.
Maybe they're not talking because you're constantly talking about boring sh*t.
I find most extrovert anoying and when I was younger, I had difficulty to deal with them in low paying / low IQ student jobs. They TEND to be less intelligent and very SUSPICIOUS (insecure) of people who are quiet, as they don't understand why introverts act the way they do.
I respect people uf they wanna be quiet, but I f**king can't stand it when I'm with my friends and we're all talking and there's some dude who's been hanging out with us the whole time, and he just follows us around and just looks at everyone and never says anything. He takes up space and it gets to the point to where he's so awkward that nobody wants him around. Soon our group gets to the point to where at lunch we have like 3 or 4 guys who sit at our table and just take up space. They just sit there and stare. So f**king awkward it makes me wanna punch a baby.
Why can't you just shut the f**k up and enjoy silence without feeling awkward? Seems like you have some kind of problem.
All these so called extroverted people defending the stupid sh*t they spew day in and day out.
No one cares. Just because someone is nodding and occasionaly responding does not mean they wouldn't rather kill themselves then give a f**k about you.
So why can't you simply say " i'm not interested " or walk away? Oh that's right because you're an aspie. Humans are social creatures, you're the f**ked up one.
Why can't you just shut the f**k up and enjoy silence without feeling awkward? Seems like you have some kind of problem.
>enjoy silence
People don't hang out to "enjoy silence" moron.
I respect people uf they wanna be quiet, but I f**king can't stand it when I'm with my friends and we're all talking and there's some dude who's been hanging out with us the whole time, and he just follows us around and just looks at everyone and never says anything. He takes up space and it gets to the point to where he's so awkward that nobody wants him around. Soon our group gets to the point to where at lunch we have like 3 or 4 guys who sit at our table and just take up space. They just sit there and stare. So f**king awkward it makes me wanna punch a baby.
There's also the other type. The ones that just follow you around and talk about things you don't care about, they follow you everywhere and just don't shut up.
With that attitude it's probably best you stay quiet anyways.
Of course. It's obvious that I show the same levels of openness, friendliness, and affection to intrusive strangers as I do to close friends. Why treat the people I actually DO care for and want to converse with any better than people I couldn't give two sh*ts about? Is this how all extroverts think?
HO.LY.SH*T. I just had the biggest f**king epiphany of my life (not being sarcastic anymore, dead serious). Extroverts are so blindly self-centered, and so completely unaware of how they project themselves onto everyone else, that they subconsciously assume that if they are not likable, then no one is. Hence, they believe if they fail to crack through someone's shell, then it must be impossible and the introvert must be an inherently cold and distant person. LOL, that's funny, in a pitiable and simultaneously terrifying way. Megalomaniacs, my god.
There's also the other type. The ones that just follow you around and talk about things you don't care about, they follow you everywhere and just don't shut up.
Holy f**k I hate people like that. There was an annoying kid in my college who constantly f**king did that and I felt too bad for him to tell him to f**k off.
You're trying to rationalize your assburgers now...
I don't believe in that 'disease', leave that for people who want to pop pills and label themselves to avoid talking responsibility for their actions.
At what point did I make any mention of the topics that compromise "small talk," you dumbf**k? I talk to my friends about the weather, or about any other inane thing you can think of, but I do so because it's on my mind and I feel like sharing my thoughts. I don't have any desire in talking to people just because it would be awkward not to say anything. Learn to read, you unbelievable sh*t-for-brains.
If I walk up to you and ask "how are you?"
What is your response?
Do you reply exactly the same was everyday or do you actually say how you feel?
How do you expect people respond to your response?
Do you expect them to respond differently based on your response or do you expect a routine response?
OP is 15 years old, don't worry, you'll grow out of it eventually.
>enjoy silence
People don't hang out to "enjoy silence" moron.
What's so bad about that? In word of Pulp Fiction.
Uncomfortable silences. Why do we feel it's necessary to yak about bullsh*t in order to be comfortable?
That's when you know you've found somebody special. When you can just shut the f**k up for a minute and comfortably enjoy the silence.
There's also the other type. The ones that just follow you around and talk about things you don't care about, they follow you everywhere and just don't shut up.
I am that kid ;_;
I can't help it. I want to make friends but all of my interests are narrow and nobody else likes them.
Who wants to listen to some loser kid give a lecture on what he's reading? Nobody except other losers who don't listen to you and are just waiting for you to shut up so that they can give you *their* lecture on whatever *they're* reading. F**kin' parallel play out the ass.
I hate smart people.
Real life should be like King of the Hill with a simple "Yup" if there's nothing to say.
Why can't you just shut the f**k up and enjoy silence without feeling awkward? Seems like you have some kind of problem.
Because there's f**king 4 of them who sit there together with each other and take up space while people who actually want to hang out with us want to sit with us. 2 of them we don't even know. It's as if they sit there because they want to make friends with us, but how are we supposed to get to know them if they don't reply to even simple greetings? It's just annoying.
I'm introverted, I keep to myself at all times. When ever someone gives me sh*t, which is fairly rare, I simply use violence.
Violence is a very effective tool.
What's so bad about that? In word of Pulp Fiction.
Uncomfortable silences. Why do we feel it's necessary to yak about bullsh*t in order to be comfortable?
That's when you know you've found somebody special. When you can just shut the f**k up for a minute and comfortably enjoy the silence.
you enjoy your silence, i'll enjoy socializing like a normal human.
Why can't you just shut the f**k up and enjoy silence without feeling awkward? Seems like you have some kind of problem.
That's different. I consider myself introverted but when I hang out with friends I don't stay quiet unless I'm really tired or something is generally wrong.
So why can't you simply say " i'm not interested " or walk away? Oh that's right because you're an aspie. Humans are social creatures, you're the f**ked up one.
>social creatures
Way to take that totally out of context. Apes are also social creatures, but they don't live in a city with several million other apes.
It has nothing to do with making small talk you f**king retard
There's also the other type. The ones that just follow you around and talk about things you don't care about, they follow you everywhere and just don't shut up.
And they're just as bad, if not worse.
I don't believe in that 'disease', leave that for people who want to pop pills and label themselves to avoid talking responsibility for their actions.
If I walk up to you and ask "how are you?"
What is your response?
Do you reply exactly the same was everyday or do you actually say how you feel?
How do you expect people respond to your response?
Do you expect them to respond differently based on your response or do you expect a routine response?
That entirely depends on who's asking. If it is a stranger who I have good reason to believe has no interest in me as a person (such as a solicitor of some kind), I will say "fine, thanks," however if it is someone I know and like I will say how I feel and proceed to start telling them why I feel that particular way, with the expectation that he/she will either question me further or return the favor with his/her own detailing of how they are feeling and why. So I actually do partake in small talk in certain situations, but it is done so that I can get rid of the person quickly and easily.
you enjoy your silence, i'll enjoy socializing like a normal human.
>Implying most of the famous scientists/artists were introverted
you enjoy your silence, i'll enjoy socializing like a normal human.
Because being by yourself is completely abnormal, right?
You know when you've found someone special? When you can just shut the f**k up and comfortably share a silence.
>Implying most of the famous scientists/artists were introverted
F**k.
Weren't
That entirely depends on who's asking. If it is a stranger who I have good reason to believe has no interest in me as a person (such as a solicitor of some kind), I will say "fine, thanks," however if it is someone I know and like I will say how I feel and proceed to start telling them why I feel that particular way, with the expectation that he/she will either question me further or return the favor with his/her own detailing of how they are feeling and why. So I actually do partake in small talk in certain situations, but it is done so that I can get rid of the person quickly and easily.
"fine thanks " is plenty enough. I'm talking about the people who just sit their with wide eyes and don't even say anything.
you enjoy your silence, i'll enjoy socializing like a normal human.
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Of course. It's obvious that I show the same levels of openness, friendliness, and affection to intrusive strangers as I do to close friends. Why treat the people I actually DO care for and want to converse with any better than people I couldn't give two sh*ts about? Is this how all extroverts think?
HO.LY.SH*T. I just had the biggest f**king epiphany of my life (not being sarcastic anymore, dead serious). Extroverts are so blindly self-centered, and so completely unaware of how they project themselves onto everyone else, that they subconsciously assume that if they are not likable, then no one is. Hence, they believe if they fail to crack through someone's shell, then it must be impossible and the introvert must be an inherently cold and distant person. LOL, that's funny, in a pitiable and simultaneously terrifying way. Megalomaniacs, my god.
Translation: We're silent because we have nothing to say to you. We actually talk to the people we like.
When you go on a fishing trip in a boat with your buddy there's gonna be some silence after a while. You can't just talk about the god damn weather all day. You just enjoy some beer in silence after a while and fish.
I have always had issues with extroverts, but only the extreme cases of overly outgoing people who love showing off and feel the need to get in your face about anything, pry at you, and make you feel horrible for being a shy, quiet, or socially anxious person. They often make blatant statements that my social awkwardness is very apparent when I have trouble making eye contact while having a conversation, or when I blush, or stutter, or otherwise. There is no level of concern for me in these gestures, it's only meant to make themselves feel f**king awesome because they don't have social problems like I do, which is why I tend to get really upset with these people and never want to be friends with them. If they had any level of understanding or concern for you, they would recognize that pointing out such things is demeaning and makes you further uncomfortable.
But overall, most people I know are a normal level of extroversion or introversion, or a mixture, and I don't f**king care because they are usually pretty cool/understanding.
Why does today society tend to value extroversion and feel that introverts are different and need to adapt?
I just don't get it. I just hate it when people I barely know, and in most of the cases I don't really want to know, ask me if I'm always that quiet. Today I was hanging around with some friends when a girl who knew my friends back from high school showed up and was with us for a while. She kept telling me to speak and say something to her. And she even asked my friends if I was always that quiet.
I really don't consider myself that introverted and once I get to know a person I can easily speak to them, mostly about common interests and so on. So should I talk more even if I don't say anything interesting? Or am I wrong for thinking about doing that?
Also, post similar stories.
You know, I used to talk to people all the time as a child
then in 7th grade or so I sorta just went f**k it, everyone is boring, all people really talk about is something they are complaining about
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Translation: We're silent because we have nothing to say to you. We actually talk to the people we like.
so you're just too f**king cool huh? Retard.
"fine thanks " is plenty enough. I'm talking about the people who just sit their with wide eyes and don't even say anything.
Yeah, but then there are parties and other social gatherings. I don't want to talk to every person at a party. There might be a few people there that I may end up having common ground enough to try to bridge the gap. But if an introvert is listening in on a conversation of strangers, who don't know each other any better than they know him, they will think it weird that he is silent, even though they are just blathering on about absolutely nothing, like the quality of the beer, playing "what's your major" tag, etc. This upsets people because they think they are being judged. Of course, they ARE being judged, introverts are simply less inclined to multitask with this or lie through their teeth in carrying on a conversation they have no interest in.
Introvert here. It's a helluva lot worse when you force us to speak. We usually come off as strange or a**holes. It's not on purpose, we just don't know how to handle you extroverts sometimes.
I usually just keep my mouth shut if there's nothing interesting to say. Better to be quiet than be a loudmouth.
My math teacher used to write quotes on the board. The one that has stuck in my head for the last three years was
>It is better to remain quiet and thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
I wish 'extroverts' would learn to shut the f**k up when appropriate.
I'm an introvert I guess. Some say I'm shy, but i'm really not. I'm just too cool for people is all.
Humans are naturally social creatures. Non-social ones such as ourselves admittedly are screwed up.
I'm not an introvert and I don't classify people into such arbitrary groups as introverts and extroverts because i'm not f**king retarded
Introvert here. It's a helluva lot worse when you force us to speak. We usually come off as strange or a**holes. It's not on purpose, we just don't know how to handle you extroverts sometimes.
Yeah, when people call me out to say something I get embarrassed as hell and say something insanely stupid. Generally this happens when I'm in a group of friends, but there is a good amount of strangers in the group
Don't worry guys, I don't dislike you, I'm just too cool.
Introvert here.
Talking to extroverts is awesome, you guys have so much to say so I never really have to add to much to the convo.
Add onto that most girls only want to talk about themselves anyway, small talk is a cinch.
Whats difficult is talking to a stranger. I can't do it because I think everything that comes out of my mouth is going to bore them.
tl:dr Extroverts are easy to talk to and
I overthink talking
so you're just too f**king cool huh? Retard.
Nope, I just don't like you.
Humans are naturally social creatures. Non-social ones such as ourselves admittedly are screwed up.
Taking social out of context.
OP, I am the very definition of an adapted introvert. When I'm in a social situation, something in my head clicks, and I'm an extrovert. Then I change back. Feels. good. man.
Humans are naturally social creatures. Non-social ones such as ourselves admittedly are screwed up.
Introverts are social in their own way. They just need / desire less stimulation and social contact.
Introverts are better listeners than Extroverts. Extroverts only think about themselves and talk about stupid sh*t.
None of you are introverts, just jackasses with poor social skills who have no idea what to say ever, so you just sit there and brood and develop a superiority complex towards people better and more interesting than you.
ITT: The OP hopelessly fails to understand the meaning of "well adjusted individual"
Introverts are better listeners than Extroverts. Extroverts only think about themselves and talk about stupid sh*t.
Way to generalize, fa**ot.
None of you are introverts, just jackasses with poor social skills who have no idea what to say ever, so you just sit there and brood and develop a superiority complex towards people better and more interesting than you.
No. What we have consistently said is that were pretty much extroverted around friends.
None of you are introverts, just jackasses with poor social skills who have no idea what to say ever, so you just sit there and brood and develop a superiority complex towards people better and more interesting than you.
Don't you ever get the feeling people grow tired of your endless banter?
Probably not, being an aspie and all.
None of you are introverts, just jackasses with poor social skills who have no idea what to say ever, so you just sit there and brood and develop a superiority complex towards people better and more interesting than you.
This is what extroverts actually believe. Think about it, they all think we are not actually introverted, we just think we're hot sh*t. If you put in in that perspective, all the weird pressure and sh*t that extroverts put on you when you're being too quiet for them suddenly makes sense. They are desperately trying to either cut you down so you don't think you're hot sh*t (when in reality you might be pissing your pants over your own insecurities), or they are trying to get you to show that you like them. They're like needy children, really.
>be an introvert
>meet new people
>75% of them automatically assume you're arrogant or think you're too precious to talk to them
FFFFFFUUUUUUU I hate this sh*t!
I can't f**king stand it when ppl ask me "why are you so quiet" or "you should talk more". most ignorant, annoying people ever. One good strategy to employ against these kinds of ppl is to just stare at a spot on their chin for a long time. Don't say anything, just stare at their chin for a few seconds with a sort of weirded-out look. They will quickly become self-conscious and retreat.
I'm not an introvert, I probably talk too much to people I'm familiar with, but I've definitely noticed that extrovert types do get put out of their comfort zone when someone quiet comes along, it's quite funny in a way, I have no problem with people like that, I used to be that way myself, and I suppose I understand, but the average person who has always been chatty and friendly (or overly friendly) really does get stumped when they run into an introvert, it only makes it worse I imagine.
I wonder why,
I consider small talk to be a million times more awkward then silence. Theres nothing I hate more then talking to someone about the weather. Its like I know for a fact the neither of us really cares about the conversation that we're having but lets keep putting energy into it.
People that can't sit and enjoy silence are the wired ones. The people that constantly have to fill the air with mindless f**king chatter.
This. Small talk is the most retarded sh*t ever, I wish you f**s would quit bringing it up. Seriously.
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Oh well, hope you guys enjoy working for me when you're older. Assuming you don't embarrass yourself in the interview that is.
Sometimes (and I love when this happens) an extrovert comes around, and I don't feel at all like I normally do when meeting someone. I'm not super introverted, but I definitely don't talk as much around people I don't know. When you guys generalize extroverts, it's really stupid because it makes introverts look like those "holier than thou" a**holes people are complaining about in this VERY f**king thread
OP Nothing wrong with you at all. You are actually my kind of person.
I was always the introverted guy in my group of friends and they never had a problem. I'd sit there smoking my cigarette and just think and listen and speak when I felt like it.
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Oh well, hope you guys enjoy working for me when you're older. Assuming you don't embarrass yourself in the interview that is.
Actually interviews are more stimulating than "how's the weather"
I can't f**king stand it when ppl ask me "why are you so quiet" or "you should talk more". most ignorant, annoying people ever. One good strategy to employ against these kinds of ppl is to just stare at a spot on their chin for a long time. Don't say anything, just stare at their chin for a few seconds with a sort of weirded-out look. They will quickly become self-conscious and retreat.
>quickly become self conscious
I think you mean quickly become creeped the f**k out there, chief.
Hey, I actually like talking about the weather, and i'm pretty introverted. I am British though.
stereoptype
When an extrovert and an introvert meet alone, the introvert goes home thinking the other guy was a moron, and extrovert goes home and has a mental breakdown.
OH GOD MY EGO ITS SHRINKING.
imagine a society where everyone is introverted
...
oh wait it wouldnt really be a society now would it
A society of introverts is great! Nobody talks unless they have something worth saying or is really funny.
Extroverts are usually loud and obnoxious. They have no clue when to shut the f**k up. They are inevitably one of those "luk at meee im so RANDUM lololololololol!" people that nobody can stand.
Introverts are usually quiet and withdrawn. They hate everyone around them and assume everyone hates them back. They probably developed a superiority complex from getting picked on in middle school.
It's hard to get to know people who never say much.
Honestly, just talk about any stupid sh*t. I've been getting better at talking to people recently. If only because I have stopped trying to find somebody similar and just say any dumb bullsh*t that comes to mind. People listen, shockingly.
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Oh well, hope you guys enjoy working for me when you're older. Assuming you don't embarrass yourself in the interview that is.
Most introverts do wonderfully in interviews. It's not a social exchange so much as a potential business exchange. Good luck working the floor at Best Buy.
I only get bored around boring people.
I'm introverted but not because of me but because outside of my home and besides my girlfriend I hate everyone else. All they talk about is sex or drugs. F**k them.
i'm an introvert, people generally lose interest in me after about 20 seconds of talking. dunno why, but my level of boringness increases x20 when i'm out at a social gathering.
i'm an introvert, people generally lose interest in me after about 20 seconds of talking. dunno why, but my level of boringness increases x20 when i'm out at a social gathering.
In fact I only get along with a few people who are interesting. Extroverts just piss me off sometimes... Not all the time but they're so f**king stupid.
As an introvert I am disappointed. Look at all these jackass introverts in this thread. When I don't talk to people it's not because I think I'm superior or that the people I'm with don't interest me; it's when I'm feeling uncomfortable. I've done that sh*t where I follow people around without saying anything and you know what? I realized what a creepy thing it was and that I should stop.
i think every introvert's dream is to find someone who they can relate to. like that french girl in that movie with the gnome
i think every introvert's dream is to find someone who they can relate to. like that french girl in that movie with the gnome
i think every introvert's dream is to find someone who they can relate to. like that french girl in that movie with the gnome
i think every introvert's dream is to find someone who they can relate to. like that french girl in that movie with the gnome
what the f**k
gnomes
Id totally f**k a gnome
It's hard to get to know people who never say much.
Honestly, just talk about any stupid sh*t. I've been getting better at talking to people recently. If only because I have stopped trying to find somebody similar and just say any dumb bullsh*t that comes to mind. People listen, shockingly.
This.
Anything that you might think is a pointless thing to say will probably be forgotten about. People have other things to give a sh*t about than the things you talk about, and vise-versa. It's a waste of enery to only ever try and contribute something interesting to conversation, when they'll never remember it anyway. Aquaintances usually care about you just as little as you care about them. But people with superiority complexes expect to be listened to like prophets, without realising how insignificant they probably are in their newly-met conversational partner's lives anyway.
humans are social animals, nothing to do with "society" you 12 year old fa**ot
Stop blaming your social patheticness on being an introvert. Extravert doesn't mean super outgoing and introverted doesn't mean totally socially awkward and silent.
I'm very extraverted but also aware of how people perceive me. I'm sure I do scare some shy people off by being blatantly upfront about certain things, but overall I know when to tone it down or act in a quieter, subdued way. Some of my best friends are introverts and most of them are perfectly normal in social situations and at parties, they're sometimes even rather talkative when they're passionate about something, they just prefer to have their alone time more often, and be in calmer situations.
Another introf** here. I think my problem is i'm just not interested enough in other people. I have many acquaintances but I don't go out of my way to start a conversation with anyone. I only speak when spoken to.
Ah well, at least I don't have obnoxiously loud people in my uni pestering me to talk as some of you say, I'm pretty much left alone. Still feels bad though cause I feel like something is wrong with me.
I was pleased to see a lot of "OP is 15, angsteen thread is useless" posts at the beginning of this thread
i am unsettled to see it coming to 100 posts
f**k off cancerous losers
Why does today society tend to value extroversion and feel that introverts are different and need to adapt?
I just don't get it. I just hate it when people I barely know, and in most of the cases I don't really want to know, ask me if I'm always that quiet. Today I was hanging around with some friends when a girl who knew my friends back from high school showed up and was with us for a while. She kept telling me to speak and say something to her. And she even asked my friends if I was always that quiet.
I really don't consider myself that introverted and once I get to know a person I can easily speak to them, mostly about common interests and so on. So should I talk more even if I don't say anything interesting? Or am I wrong for thinking about doing that?
Also, post similar stories.
I will be honest with you. I didn't make it past your
>hurpaderpawhydoihavetoplayoutside
I will tell you this: People value extroversion because it's human nature. That you cannot socialize means that you cannot survive as part of a mammal species which survived solely based on a group structure.
If you want to stay inside, that's quite alright. Just don't be a douche about it and feel self-righteous because your inferior social skills are an evolutionary defect.
Wut? Intro doesnt mean you cant be social for sh*t
the f**k, everyone in this thread is superior bullsh*t fa**ots
>enjoy silence
People don't hang out to "enjoy silence" moron.
>People don't hang out to "enjoy silence" moron.
I do ( ._.)
In fact, I think if I had a girlfriend, the perfect afternoon is us quietly drawing or some similar activity. A person's company is much, much more than what they say.
Anyway, this thread is full of people who don't seem to know what introverts and extroverts are.
Interactions with strangers or groups tends to take a lot of effort and energy for introverts, and that can only be recharged by that quiet time. Introverts need some degree of quiet and space to unwind or organize their thoughts and feelings.
Extroverts, on the other hand, are energized by those interactions. Their social needs are in part filled by receiving (or giving, for most of them) that kind of attention in much larger amounts, and generally they need little to no quiet time in between.
The people freaking out and raging could be either introverts or extroverts, but are certainly rude.
I will be honest with you. I didn't make it past your
>hurpaderpawhydoihavetoplayoutside
I will tell you this: People value extroversion because it's human nature. That you cannot socialize means that you cannot survive as part of a mammal species which survived solely based on a group structure.
If you want to stay inside, that's quite alright. Just don't be a douche about it and feel self-righteous because your inferior social skills are an evolutionary defect.
>evolutionary defect.
What? Who's holier-than-thou now?
>evolutionary defect.
What? Who's holier-than-thou now?
I can see you took my words to heart and I appreciate it.
>People don't hang out to "enjoy silence" moron.
I do ( ._.)
In fact, I think if I had a girlfriend, the perfect afternoon is us quietly drawing or some similar activity. A person's company is much, much more than what they say.
Anyway, this thread is full of people who don't seem to know what introverts and extroverts are.
Interactions with strangers or groups tends to take a lot of effort and energy for introverts, and that can only be recharged by that quiet time. Introverts need some degree of quiet and space to unwind or organize their thoughts and feelings.
Extroverts, on the other hand, are energized by those interactions. Their social needs are in part filled by receiving (or giving, for most of them) that kind of attention in much larger amounts, and generally they need little to no quiet time in between.
The people freaking out and raging could be either introverts or extroverts, but are certainly rude.
HOLY F**K THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING
I was about to f**king lose my mind, reading all these aspie posts. I know I'm an introvert, but I don't hate social interaction. I like meeting new people, but I just choose friends carefully.
HOLY F**K THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING
I was about to f**king lose my mind, reading all these aspie posts. I know I'm an introvert, but I don't hate social interaction. I like meeting new people, but I just choose friends carefully.
>aspies
srsly...
I dunno man. I'm just not very good at maintaining a conversation with people I don't know. And being around lots of people kinda wears on me.
That's just how it is, not gonna read into it any deeper than that. Just not a chatty fellow.
The ONLY difference between introverts and extroverts: Introverts don't see opportunity in a conversation. We generally think before we speak as if we are writing a paper. Extroverts think as they talk, which allows them to blabber about a sh*tload of unnecessary topics, like what kind of hair gel they use.
An introvert can usually say in one sentence what an extrovert takes 10 sentences say.
We live in an empiricist western society which scorns the internal world in favor of the external. The external object reigns supreme in our culture.
If you want to see an example of societies which value introverts, look at far eastern countries such as Japan.
We live in an empiricist western society which scorns the internal world in favor of the external. The external object reigns supreme in our culture.
If you want to see an example of societies which value introverts, look at far eastern countries such as Japan.
>japan
i read that finnish people are intros too
We live in an empiricist western society which scorns the internal world in favor of the external. The external object reigns supreme in our culture.
If you want to see an example of societies which value introverts, look at far eastern countries such as Japan.
That's why the hiki is so revered over there.
We live in an empiricist western society which scorns the internal world in favor of the external. The external object reigns supreme in our culture.
If you want to see an example of societies which value introverts, look at far eastern countries such as Japan.
>implying there are any good arguments in favour of non-empirical schools of philosophy
That's why the hiki is so revered over there.
Its not revered, man. They consider it a social problem actually and its one of the biggest issues that the government is facing. Its like how big gay marriage is here, every politican has to have a stance on it because its considered such a pandemic.
Its not revered, man. They consider it a social problem actually and its one of the biggest issues that the government is facing. Its like how big gay marriage is here, every politican has to have a stance on it because its considered such a pandemic.
I was being sarcastic. As far as I know, they hate the hikis.
"I'm not introverted, I just hate you."
I believe introverts are social victims. I bet every introvert here had a string bad social experiences in middle school or high school. They generally do not trust outsiders, and only seek social situations that provide an either comical, informative, or mutual outcome.
I believe introverts are social victims. I bet every introvert here had a string bad social experiences in middle school or high school. They generally do not trust outsiders, and only seek social situations that provide an either comical, informative, or mutual outcome.
or they just don't like human interaction.
Not everyone has to be the same. Learn to accept difference and not try to rationalize them, not everything has an answer.
or they just don't like human interaction.
Not everyone has to be the same. Learn to accept difference and not try to rationalize them, not everything has an answer.
Agreed. As someone who is introverted [as opposed to an introvert] I can only speak for myself, I don't relate to the guys who make extroverted people sound like morons or the extroverted guys that make introverted people sound like Aspies.
>Why does today society tend to value extroversion and feel that introverts are different and need to adapt?
Society tends to value extroversion because extroverts are, by definition, more sociable.
The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that this is the dumbest question ever asked on web.
All yall intoverts should stop being fa**ots
>Why does today society tend to value extroversion and feel that introverts are different and need to adapt?
Society tends to value extroversion because extroverts are, by definition, more sociable.
The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that this is the dumbest question ever asked on web.
>I'm convinced that this is the dumbest question ever asked on web.
lurk more
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Their brains are f**ked up. The worst is that they just think they can call you and you're supposed to answer. F**k you, dude; I'm gonna not pick up, and then call you whenever I feel like doing so.
It's really rather oppressive. They get all mad, as though they have the right to talk to you whenever they feel like.
Extroverts are completely obnoxious people. The truth is that they don't actually have a concept of introversion. This is is true of a great many minority/majority situations. Those in the majority feel no need to understand what it is like to not be that way. That being the case, they can only understand things on their terms. So if you aren't talking, they make think you don't like them or something. If they would just grow up, however, and learn that not all people are the same, it would be a lot easier to get along with them.
I consider small talk to be a million times more awkward then silence. Theres nothing I hate more then talking to someone about the weather. Its like I know for a fact the neither of us really cares about the conversation that we're having but lets keep putting energy into it.
People that can't sit and enjoy silence are the wired ones. The people that constantly have to fill the air with mindless f**king chatter.
Im in introvert to, but i think i was born an extrovert. Im beginning to break of of this shell i had built around myself, tuning my self to society, and getting to be more normal.
See i think you just illustrated how some peoples brain process scenarios differently. While your standing there thinkin "oh sh*t were talking about the weather its f**king boring we arent saying anything of importance" the other dude is over there thinking "damn why isnt he saying anything, what is he thinking about" Its more about the act of conversing than the substance itself. Its like dancing kind of.
You do on occasion stumble into some actual deep conversations with some substance to them, and you should cherish and enjoy them. but there are also times where u just need to relax and make your mouth work...
Im in introvert to, but i think i was born an extrovert. Im beginning to break of of this shell i had built around myself, tuning my self to society, and getting to be more normal.
See i think you just illustrated how some peoples brain process scenarios differently. While your standing there thinkin "oh sh*t were talking about the weather its f**king boring we arent saying anything of importance" the other dude is over there thinking "damn why isnt he saying anything, what is he thinking about" Its more about the act of conversing than the substance itself. Its like dancing kind of.
You do on occasion stumble into some actual deep conversations with some substance to them, and you should cherish and enjoy them. but there are also times where u just need to relax and make your mouth work...
You don't actually need to. You only need to do it to make them feel comfortable. The obvious question being "why is it our job to make them feel comfortable by talking, and not their job to make us feel comfortable by shutting the f**k up?"
>You do on occasion stumble into some actual deep conversations with some substance to them, and you should cherish and enjoy them.
Yes, those conversations are great.
>but there are also times where u just need to relax and make your mouth work...
No, why the f**k should I? Just to appease someone who can't handle silence? F**k that.
I'm introverted.
You can learn so much about people when you just sit and listen
I'm introverted.
You can learn so much about people when you just sit and listen
F**KING THIS
I love observing people. I love just sitting and absorbing the socialization, acquiring knowledge is like masturbation for the brain.
imagine a society where everyone is introverted
...
oh wait it wouldnt really be a society now would it
Imagine a society where everyone was naturally forced to speak their mind.
Oh, the drama.
Imagine a society where everyone was naturally forced to speak their mind.
Oh, the drama.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1058017/
They made a movie about it.
Have you ever just been with someone and have an actual back and fourth conversation for an extended amount of time? You know that feeling you get inside? That "full up" feeling, where you and the other person are just on point.
Thats why you should. That feeling is why extroverts are extroverts. Its like an addiction to them. And you can change. Everyone doubts constantly the human ability to change.
Extrovert is just a term made up by a sh*tty parent that had a loudmouth f**kwad for a kid and tried to dress it up as some positive thing.
Have you ever just been with someone and have an actual back and fourth conversation for an extended amount of time? You know that feeling you get inside? That "full up" feeling, where you and the other person are just on point.
Thats why you should. That feeling is why extroverts are extroverts. Its like an addiction to them. And you can change. Everyone doubts constantly the human ability to change.
Introverts have that too, with actual meaningful conversation, not random small talk used to fill in the silence.
Everyone likes meaningful conversations.
Extroverts probably don't get the same satisfaction from small talk either.
Have you ever just been with someone and have an actual back and fourth conversation for an extended amount of time? You know that feeling you get inside? That "full up" feeling, where you and the other person are just on point.
Thats why you should. That feeling is why extroverts are extroverts. Its like an addiction to them. And you can change. Everyone doubts constantly the human ability to change.
My best conversations are with my introvert friends. There is one with whom I can talk on the phone for hours on end. You don't need to be an extrovert to have a good conversation. Only an extrovert (someone who doesn't understand introverts at all) would think a silly thing like that.
What the f**k.
Introversion doesn't = aspie who can't talk to people and is too scared to look you in the eyes
50% of the population is introverted. It's not that weird. It doesn't necessarily mean that you're shy either (though they're more likely to be shy).
Is it just me, or is it everytime some one mentions an extroverted person in this thread, I keep thinking about that one really annoying loud bloke I work with. I'm not sure if all of us 'intros/aspies' are not just jelous of these people.
Actually no that's a load of bollocks. When I'm sat at work. People will be habit a huge convosation and I will happily sit there listening in. Alot of the time I prefer listening to convosations rather than activley being a
part of them. Is that weird?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1058017/
They made a movie about it.
Huh, figures
God, I hate it that people think of things in these seemingly opposite categories, and are actually convinced that they can't be unified. It's the same old habit of dualism that humanity has been f**king itself up with for... ever.
If you're introverted, you probably think too much.
If you're extraverted, you probably think not enough.
It's a basic principle of self-discipline. Moderation and sh*t. Jesus christ.
Why does today society tend to value extroversion and feel that introverts are different and need to adapt?
I just don't get it. I just hate it when people I barely know, and in most of the cases I don't really want to know, ask me if I'm always that quiet. Today I was hanging around with some friends when a girl who knew my friends back from high school showed up and was with us for a while. She kept telling me to speak and say something to her. And she even asked my friends if I was always that quiet.
I really don't consider myself that introverted and once I get to know a person I can easily speak to them, mostly about common interests and so on. So should I talk more even if I don't say anything interesting? Or am I wrong for thinking about doing that?
Also, post similar stories.
OP it's like labeling 'extraversion' as 'good' and 'introversion' as bad.' but from reading the comments seems that a fair lot are in-betweeners (normalf**s?). okay, granted there are those at the extremities but sometimes people 'switch modes' depending on situation. like after long periods of socializing i usually take a breather; it kind of gets mentally draining.
God, I hate it that people think of things in these seemingly opposite categories, and are actually convinced that they can't be unified. It's the same old habit of dualism that humanity has been f**king itself up with for... ever.
If you're introverted, you probably think too much.
If you're extraverted, you probably think not enough.
It's a basic principle of self-discipline. Moderation and sh*t. Jesus christ.
>you probably think too much
I guess...well, not really thinking, but more like how JD from scrubs will zone out in the middle of a conversation or in the middle of work or something. Yeah, I do that.
Is it just me, or is it everytime some one mentions an extroverted person in this thread, I keep thinking about that one really annoying loud bloke I work with. I'm not sure if all of us 'intros/aspies' are not just jelous of these people.
Actually no that's a load of bollocks. When I'm sat at work. People will be habit a huge convosation and I will happily sit there listening in. Alot of the time I prefer listening to convosations rather than activley being a
part of them. Is that weird?
No. It has been stated multiple times in this thread that extrovert people cringe for attention, while introvert people need less attention. You are as normal as mashed potatoes.
I could explain how things came to be this way, but that's boring and I'm lazy. If you want to, adapt. If not, don't do it, and live how you want.
If you want to change into an extrovert, hang out with diferent people and just say what comes to mind with less filtering and worrying about how they'll respond. Of course, don't say anything you'd normally reserve for web. Until you get the hang of it, don't talk about sex or dicks or anything unless someone else brings it up- that way you're not going to seem like a creepy perv. If you don't have trouble with this, good for you.
>you probably think too much
I guess...well, not really thinking, but more like how JD from scrubs will zone out in the middle of a conversation or in the middle of work or something. Yeah, I do that.
I tend to do that too. Maybe we could get together sometime and get Appletinis.
I could explain how things came to be this way, but that's boring and I'm lazy. If you want to, adapt. If not, don't do it, and live how you want.
If you want to change into an extrovert, hang out with diferent people and just say what comes to mind with less filtering and worrying about how they'll respond. Of course, don't say anything you'd normally reserve for web. Until you get the hang of it, don't talk about sex or dicks or anything unless someone else brings it up- that way you're not going to seem like a creepy perv. If you don't have trouble with this, good for you.
Only good adviceice on this thread
I consider small talk to be a million times more awkward then silence. Theres nothing I hate more then talking to someone about the weather. Its like I know for a fact the neither of us really cares about the conversation that we're having but lets keep putting energy into it.
People that can't sit and enjoy silence are the wired ones. The people that constantly have to fill the air with mindless f**king chatter.
Small talk is not meant to convey information. It is meant to establish rapport, which is done 99% through body language, which requires conversation. Once rapport is established, small talk will naturally transition into actual conversation, friendship, and so on. Just to be sure you know what rapport is: when your friend is trying to end a conversation, he breaks the rapport deliberately. You pick up on this, and know to wrap it up. That bond that got broken was rapport.
tl;dr You're an introvert because you suck at establishing rapport.
inb4 saying rapport too often makes it lose meaning
>People don't hang out to "enjoy silence" moron.
I do ( ._.)
In fact, I think if I had a girlfriend, the perfect afternoon is us quietly drawing or some similar activity. A person's company is much, much more than what they say.
Anyway, this thread is full of people who don't seem to know what introverts and extroverts are.
Interactions with strangers or groups tends to take a lot of effort and energy for introverts, and that can only be recharged by that quiet time. Introverts need some degree of quiet and space to unwind or organize their thoughts and feelings.
Extroverts, on the other hand, are energized by those interactions. Their social needs are in part filled by receiving (or giving, for most of them) that kind of attention in much larger amounts, and generally they need little to no quiet time in between.
The people freaking out and raging could be either introverts or extroverts, but are certainly rude.
My god why are people ignoring this post so much and still trying to dress social awkwardness up as introversion?
That is not what introversion is. Introversion and Extroversion is to do with optimal levels of stimulation: ie. an introverted eprson might want to stay in and have a quiet night, and that satisfies their needs, whereas extroverted people are more outgoing because they need more stimulation to satisfy their basic needs. I can't see how people are mistaking this spectrum for what is different levels of social communication. NOT THE SAME THING.
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