She can't go out without it. Indeed, she feels naked without it. She even thinks she is less valuable and less beautiful without it.
It's bad for her -- much of it is toxic. Often, she does it for men, even though she thinks she does it for herself.
She will never be truly equal to men till she no longer wears it. But alas, she is convinced by her culture that she has to have it.
we should make out women wear burqa aswell.
just in case we need a towel, use bitches burqa.
Aks me if I give a f**k
My girlfriend never wears make-up. Ball's in your court, poor-analogy-OP.
Maybe but I know people who come from Muslim countries that promote wearing burkas (it's a cultural thing, not a religious one) and don't wear one just as I know girls from the West who don't wear make-up.
sorry, we don't throw acid in the face of women who don't wear make-up. Try against 1st of women's studies.
the one with the glasses made me laugh
DAMN THOSE BITCHES ARE HOT
FAP FAP FAP IF SHE BLOWS YOU IT'S LIKE GHOST BLOWJOB
/x/ LIEKS
Let's host a bra burning! We must work hard, my sisters, to crush the oppression of phallicentric patriarchy! Fight the penis!
Women don't wear make up because it's forced, they do it to look better. Especially once they get over 25. Some women are butt ugly without makeup, but hot as hell with it. Unless women magically continue to look good after the age of 30 like men do, they will never be equal.
the difference is that it isn't against the law, anywhere, to not wear make up.
Clothes are opressing mah wymynz!
In summer noone should wear clothes!
Our bodies are all natural!
Disregard my raging errection, it's normal too.
Don't be afraid if you are alone on the streets at night and a gentleman of color with a raging errection follows you. It's natural.
sorry, we don't throw acid in the face of women who don't wear make-up. Try against 1st of women's studies.
How does the severity of punishment change the truth of the comparison? Punishments for not wearing makeup still exist, and it is still pressured upon women by society at large.
How does the severity of punishment change the truth of the comparison? Punishments for not wearing makeup still exist, and it is still pressured upon women by society at large.
then you can make the same comparison with ANY social norm. we are "forced" by society to say thank you when someone gives us a favor. we are forced to eat with forks and spoons! oh god! we have no free will!
Women don't wear make up because it's forced, they do it to look better. Especially once they get over 25. Some women are butt ugly without makeup, but hot as hell with it. Unless women magically continue to look good after the age of 30 like men do, they will never be equal.
To play devil's advocate - women without makeup are perceived to be less attractive only because of what society has grown to deem "attractive" - ie. clear skin, rosy cheeks, framed eyes, long lashes etc. Having black lines around your eyes is not natural, so by biological standards that should not be more attractive than someone who wears nothing. But it is society which has dictated it is.
To play devil's advocate - women without makeup are perceived to be less attractive only because of what society has grown to deem "attractive" - ie. clear skin, rosy cheeks, framed eyes, long lashes etc. Having black lines around your eyes is not natural, so by biological standards that should not be more attractive than someone who wears nothing. But it is society which has dictated it is.
All makeup is used to hide blemishes and bring attention to the traits that look best on a woman's face. Hence why they colors the lips and use eyeliner and eye shadow to bring out the color of the eyes. It's a game created to help bag a mate, not simply because society dictates such. Any other opinion in naive.
All makeup is used to hide blemishes and bring attention to the traits that look best on a woman's face. Hence why they colors the lips and use eyeliner and eye shadow to bring out the color of the eyes. It's a game created to help bag a mate, not simply because society dictates such. Any other opinion in naive.
I suppose the attracting mate theory has merit actually, fair enough.
Stupid liberal feminism rhetoric everywhere up in this bitch
then you can make the same comparison with ANY social norm. we are "forced" by society to say thank you when someone gives us a favor. we are forced to eat with forks and spoons! oh god! we have no free will!
OMG, The dogs are after me.
I'm not wearing shoes in walmart!
Make-up is the Western woman's burqa. It is forced on her by her culture.
She can't go out without it. Indeed, she feels naked without it. She even thinks she is less valuable and less beautiful without it.
It's bad for her -- much of it is toxic. Often, she does it for men, even though she thinks she does it for herself.
She will never be truly equal to men till she no longer wears it. But alas, she is convinced by her culture that she has to have it.
What "punishment" is there for not wearing make up.
I think I've worn it twice so far this year. And so far...I haven't been arrested, lost my job and hardly anyone notices if I wear it or not.
Fail.
A shirt is more comparable.
on a side note, it has been my observation that women who wear the hijab often apply the most hideous sort of make-up ever, the sort you'd expect to see on aged prostitutes and clowns. enough eyeliner and Kohl to last a regular teenaged girl a few weeks is applied in one sitting, the lips are coated with what appears to be cherry-colored shellac, and the skin has more powder and foundation on it than Pompeii right after Vesuvius erupted. Do Not Want.
How did I come to see a muslim girl without the Burka? well, an Arab friend of mine, who's more than eager to lose his sandni**er tag, befriended me. Took me and my troop all over town, clubbing, all on his wallet. Invited me over to dinner, and threw a minor fit when his sister and mom wore the veil. he demanded the women take off their hijab, because I was "like a brother" Hell, I thought i was gonna see some super-hot exotic middle eastern babes, but the minute the burkas were discarded---MY EYES IT BURNS CANNOT UNSEE
Look at that one bitch.! You can see her eyes. What a slut, 40 lashes.
I would never date a woman who wears makeup or heels because I could have no respect for her if she did. It's the same with people with tattoos, excesive piercings or expensive clothing. For some people "fitting in" and "looking good" is a major part of their life, for me it's a waste of time that differentiates vapid sheep from people with substance and independent character. I'd never date a woman who wanted me to drive a 200,000 $ car even though I could afford one.
But most women who wear a lot of makeup dont look nice because of that, plus your analogy is not correct based on the general concensus of the other posters
This is why I date women who don't wear makeup.
I like girls without makeup :3
Women wear makeup because they want to. I've never looked at a woman and said "why aren't you wearing makeup", or even had that thought. A woman has never faced public abuse/ridicule/torture/death for not wearing makeup in the western world.
I don't usually wear makeup.
Sometimes, though, i can't help myself. it's fun to play with :3
Women wear makeup because they want to. I've never looked at a woman and said "why aren't you wearing makeup", or even had that thought. A woman has never faced public abuse/ridicule/torture/death for not wearing makeup in the western world.
You are a retard who has no idea how human actions are conditioned and are probably 15 years old.
I don't usually wear makeup.
Sometimes, though, i can't help myself. it's fun to play with :3
This is why western women wear makeup, not because of any forcing.
Does a woman get whipped if she goes out of her house without make up on?
No.
/thread.
Women generally look more attractive if they wear makeup. The moar you know.
You are a retard who has no idea how human actions are conditioned and are probably 15 years old.
You are a college women's studies major that has drank too much of the koolaid. I've read plenty of literature claiming sh*t like OP, and it basically is all just excuses for why a race/class is not on top. They all just want to complain instead of bettering themselves.
Look at asians in America. They faced the same prejudices, racism, and starting-with-nothing that all other minorities did, and yet a majority of them thrive and have beaten all major bad stereotypes.
>Realize men use makeup as well, to cover scars, etc.
>Break OPs argument
No offence OP, I don't like burqas either, but you're wrong.
>Implying the women in OP's picture aren't wearing makeup around their eyes.
>Implying I'm not sick and f**king tired of waiting for my wife to put makeup on whenever we need to go anywhere.
>Implying anyone has ever been arrested for wearing makeup
>Implying I give a sh*t whether a woman is wearing makeup or not
The only people who bitch about women not wearing makeup are.... OTHER WOMEN.
"HURR HURR, YOU SEEN HER WITHOUT HER MAKEUP? HURRR SHE'S JUST AS UGLY AS THE REST OF US. WHAT A WH**RE."
OR, it's because sometimes women like to enhance their physical appearance with makeup.
WHICH IS THE CONSENSUS OF WHAT MAKEUP IS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
just because you can ridicule something simple does not in any way mean you are smart. try again, ya c**t.
>Realize men use makeup as well, to cover scars, etc.Realize men use makeup as well, to cover scars, etc.
>Break OPs argument
No offence OP, I don't like burqas either, but you're wrong.
>Implying this actually happens.
then you can make the same comparison with ANY social norm. we are "forced" by society to say thank you when someone gives us a favor. we are forced to eat with forks and spoons! oh god! we have no free will!
Actually those are good reasons to think you don't have free will. If you go to a dinner and want to eat something with your hands because you think it would easier or more fun, but can't because of the normative standards of the bourgeois dinner party, are you truly free?
Make-up is the Western woman's burqa. It is forced on her by her culture.
She can't go out without it. Indeed, she feels naked without it. She even thinks she is less valuable and less beautiful without it.
It's bad for her -- much of it is toxic. Often, she does it for men, even though she thinks she does it for herself.
She will never be truly equal to men till she no longer wears it. But alas, she is convinced by her culture that she has to have it.
op speaks truth
also islam is pretty cool
>Realize men use makeup as well, to cover scars, etc.
>Break OPs argument
No offence OP, I don't like burqas either, but you're wrong.
>to cover scars
They use it for a lot more than that, son. Look at any scenef**/metro male.
I've seen eye shadow, lipstick and more. And these weren't even gay men either.
OMG, The dogs are after me.
I'm not wearing shoes in walmart!
What "punishment" is there for not wearing make up.
I think I've worn it twice so far this year. And so far...I haven't been arrested, lost my job and hardly anyone notices if I wear it or not.
Fail.
It depends where you work, whom you keep company with, how you were brought up, your levels of mass media consumption...
I'm sorry, but it's not the same. I don't wear makeup about 80% of the time other than some chapstick and no one ever bothers me about it.
Vagina here
I don't ever wear makeup ever. I don't need to paint sh*t on my face to make myself look pretty. If a guy's gonna like me or people are gonna like me they're gonna like me the way I am, not with warpaint all over my goddamn face.
Actually those are good reasons to think you don't have free will. If you go to a dinner and want to eat something with your hands because you think it would easier or more fun, but can't because of the normative standards of the bourgeois dinner party, are you truly free?
yes, i'm still free. i just prefer to conform within the situation.
we all have to accept we live in a society, one way or another...
then you can make the same comparison with ANY social norm. we are "forced" by society to say thank you when someone gives us a favor. we are forced to eat with forks and spoons! oh god! we have no free will!
You don't see why a social norm only incumbent on one gender is problematic?
Does a woman get whipped if she goes out of her house without make up on?
No.
/thread.
I was thinking executed but whipped works too.
yes, i'm still free. i just prefer to conform within the situation.
we all have to accept we live in a society, one way or another...
Imagine you didn't want to conform, would you be able to or not?
Imagine you didn't want to conform, would you be able to or not?
of course i would be able to. i'd just have to suffer a variable amount of social stigma.
the amount of course depends on many factors, but yes i would still be very much able to be a maverick and eat with my hands.
Every man ITT who says he likes women who don't wear makeup is a liar. He likes a woman who doesn't wear OBVIOUS makeup. Any woman who does not wear makeup is a lazy c**t.
>to cover scars
They use it for a lot more than that, son. Look at any scenef**/metro male.
I've seen eye shadow, lipstick and more. And these weren't even gay men either.
Et Cetera;
(Abbr. etc.)
And other unspecified things of the same class; and so forth.
Makeup = showing she wants to be attractive and isn't owned.
Burqa = Like a bikechain.
Makeup = showing she wants to be attractive and isn't owned.
Burqa = Like a bikechain.
Additionally
>implying muslims don't wear makeup under their burqa/niqab for their husband.
a) plenty don't
b) they don't get beaten for not wearing it
what clever self-righteous response have you prepared for these f**king obvious and massive cracks in your analogy, OP.
Women don't wear make up because it's forced, they do it to look better. Especially once they get over 25. Some women are butt ugly without makeup, but hot as hell with it. Unless women magically continue to look good after the age of 30 like men do, they will never be equal.
>Some women are obviously fat without makeup, but makeup distracts anyone from seriously noticing their double chin, once they climb over age 25 and start to balloon in size.
Fix'd for accuracy.
Every man ITT who says he likes women who don't wear makeup is a liar. He likes a woman who doesn't wear OBVIOUS makeup. Any woman who does not wear makeup is a lazy c**t.
ITT take your own sweeping and hilariously moronic generalizations and convince yourself that it's normal because everyone must really think like you do and just not voice it, right?
ITT take your own sweeping and hilariously moronic generalizations and convince yourself that it's normal because everyone must really think like you do and just not voice it, right?
Nope, just posting the truth.
ITT take your own sweeping and hilariously moronic generalizations and convince yourself that it's normal because everyone must really think like you do and just not voice it, right?
It is kind of true. My ex said he hated girls that wore makeup, but guess what? Every girl he found attractive was slathered in the stuff and he just didn't know it. I put it on too and he was shocked at how good it looked.
a) plenty don't
b) they don't get beaten for not wearing it
what clever self-righteous response have you prepared for these f**king obvious and massive cracks in your analogy, OP.
Of course they don't get beaten. It's because they live their lives inside a house, never going outside and being good little breeders.
Never dated a girl who wears makeup. Actually, none of my female friends wear makeup. Oh wait, one just starting wearing it but not too much.
Makeup is so 10 years ago.
Of course they don't get beaten. It's because they live their lives inside a house, never going outside and being good little breeders.
what the f**k are you even talking about
have you got anything of substance to add? Maybe something with a more convincing and verifiable source than "maybe if I act as though what I'm saying is common knowledge it won't come off as obvious bullsh*t and I might be mistaken for being clever"
what the f**k are you even talking about
have you got anything of substance to add? Maybe something with a more convincing and verifiable source than "maybe if I act as though what I'm saying is common knowledge it won't come off as obvious bullsh*t and I might be mistaken for being clever"
butthurt muslim detected.
I'm taking my bf's virginity tonight
I'm wearing makeup, getting my hair done, and having sexy lingerie on underneath
Ain't no troll gon break my stride
Never dated a girl who wears makeup. Actually, none of my female friends wear makeup. Oh wait, one just starting wearing it but not too much.
Makeup is so 10 years ago.
That s irrelevant since you never dated anyone and had no female friends.
wow. I never tought of it that way. Good work op
It is kind of true. My ex said he hated girls that wore makeup, but guess what? Every girl he found attractive was slathered in the stuff and he just didn't know it. I put it on too and he was shocked at how good it looked.
oh yeah, those who are expert at makeup can do. Just go look for some of those before and after photos. Gals can slather on a tonne of makeup and make it look invisible.
butthurt muslim detected.
You're... You seem to have mixed up your sides? I'm not arguing for hijabs or whatever, I'm on the other side trying to decipher what the hell the other anon meant?
NEWSFLASH
muslims in burkas still wear makeup and eye liner under their stupid ninja rags
The problem isn't women wearing makeup, it's women who do not know how to apply it. There are about five colors every woman should or can wear but for some reason people think painting your eyelids funky colors attracts a mate.
I wear makeup every single day and most people can't even tell. My own best friend was shocked yesterday to find me putting on makeup.
You're... You seem to have mixed up your sides? I'm not arguing for hijabs or whatever, I'm on the other side trying to decipher what the hell the other anon meant?
I'm going to guess SA, various parts of the middle east, "moderate" Indonesia among others. Guess you don't pay attention too much to the world.
The problem isn't women wearing makeup, it's women who do not know how to apply it. There are about five colors every woman should or can wear but for some reason people think painting your eyelids funky colors attracts a mate.
I wear makeup every single day and most people can't even tell. My own best friend was shocked yesterday to find me putting on makeup.
Oh wow, are you that stupid or you haven't read OP s post did you?
oh yeah, those who are expert at makeup can do. Just go look for some of those before and after photos. Gals can slather on a tonne of makeup and make it look invisible.
I know, right? And to think I stopped wearing makeup for that jerk.
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