2. When doing something nice for someone, you shouldn't think of how this will eventually get you laid. It just makes you a manipulative bastard. You aren't good looking enough for that to work.
3. Stop being a pu**y, and grow a spine. Don't let people walk all over you.
Nice guys bring it on themselves.
Yeah, but what is OPs point?
So essentially "nice guys" do everything girls do.
I hope you have a nice day despite being a complete negative nancy :)
I hope you have a nice day despite being a complete negative nancy :)
I was a negative nancy earlier this morning, finally got a proper meal at Popeye's. Feelin' right as rain.
Obvious post is obvious but the weatherman says there's a 33% chance of sh*tstorm.
Women don't know what they want.
We're the best thing for them and they're going to like it or I'm going to make them like it. I'm nice, f**k you.
OP is entirely correct and for that I award him this picture of my penis which he would surely be delighted to suck.
I'm not a nice guy, but:
1. When you've done more for her than her boyfriend, what makes him more deserving of love than you?
2. Most nice guys aren't looking to get laid, they want love, this pretty much contradicts your first point.
3. When they do this you call them "disingenuous c**ts" for not liking the girl enough as a person to put up with being walked all over.
Die.
What an original point OP. I haven't heard this 50,000 times over the last 3 years. Nope, not at all.
F**k off. I agree with you but f**k the f**k off. This has been discussed to death. You're only going to get trolls.
Women don't know what they want.
We're the best thing for them and they're going to like it or I'm going to make them like it. I'm nice, f**k you.
Women want guys that are strong. Whether that means by physical strength, mental accuity, charismatic power, or even just a super nonchalant attitude.
But our PC society where "everyone is special" would look down on women saying that up front.
Also being blunt isn't the way of the woman.
I'm not a nice guy, but:
1. When you've done more for her than her boyfriend, what makes him more deserving of love than you?
2. Most nice guys aren't looking to get laid, they want love, this pretty much contradicts your first point.
3. When they do this you call them "disingenuous c**ts" for not liking the girl enough as a person to put up with being walked all over.
Die.
>1. When you've done more for her than her boyfriend, what makes him more deserving of love than you?
Love doesn't work that way.
Your problem is that you think you can outshine passion by throwing on huge amounts of favors and trying to woo her with "nice" qualities. In reality, these nice qualities are incredibly shallow, and you're more of a manipulative bastard than her boyfriend that you constantly put down.
You don't do nice things for her because you genuinely care about her, if you did, you wouldn't feel entitled to be her boyfriend. You do nice things for her because you want her for yourself, whether that's just f**king or something more, and that's what makes you disingenuous.
>1. When you've done more for her than her boyfriend, what makes him more deserving of love than you?
Love doesn't work that way.
Your problem is that you think you can outshine passion by throwing on huge amounts of favors and trying to woo her with "nice" qualities. In reality, these nice qualities are incredibly shallow, and you're more of a manipulative bastard than her boyfriend that you constantly put down.
You don't do nice things for her because you genuinely care about her, if you did, you wouldn't feel entitled to be her boyfriend. You do nice things for her because you want her for yourself, whether that's just f**king or something more, and that's what makes you disingenuous.
You keep saying "you" as if I've ever done a woman a favor that wasn't sexual in nature.
I'm not a nice guy, but:
1. When you've done more for her than her boyfriend, what makes him more deserving of love than you?
2. Most nice guys aren't looking to get laid, they want love, this pretty much contradicts your first point.
3. When they do this you call them "disingenuous c**ts" for not liking the girl enough as a person to put up with being walked all over.
Die.
>1. When you've done more for her than her boyfriend, what makes him more deserving of love than you?
You don't "earn" love. It's not logical.
F**k you OP. I am a real nice guy and I'm sick of this bullsh*t that we're all secretly a**holes.
When I was with my ex, I was more than willing to wait for her to be ready and before it happened I realized I didn't want to be with her anymore, and instead of just dealing with the problems so I could finally have sex, I left her because I knew that if I took her virginity before we broke up it would destroy her.
>1. When you've done more for her than her boyfriend, what makes him more deserving of love than you?
You don't "earn" love. It's not logical.
love itself is not logical.
I'm not a nice guy, but:
1. When you've done more for her than her boyfriend, what makes him more deserving of love than you?
2. Most nice guys aren't looking to get laid, they want love, this pretty much contradicts your first point.
3. When they do this you call them "disingenuous c**ts" for not liking the girl enough as a person to put up with being walked all over.
Die.
>1. When you've done more for her than her boyfriend, what makes him more deserving of love than you?
IVE DONE 10 GOOD THINGS FOR YOU, YOUR BOYFRIEND HAS ONLY DO 6
LOVE ME, NOW
love itself is not logical.
Yes, that is what I said. "It's" was referring to love.
what if i am good looking enough for that to work?
>1. When you've done more for her than her boyfriend, what makes him more deserving of love than you?
IVE DONE 10 GOOD THINGS FOR YOU, YOUR BOYFRIEND HAS ONLY DO 6
LOVE ME, NOW
anonymous is always ranting and raving about the woman liking the better man. What is the definition of the better man? Just looking better?
Dem shallow females.
aka be a nice guy for the sake of being a nice guy, not for the sake of getting laid
simple
Women want guys that are strong. Whether that means by physical strength, mental accuity, charismatic power, or even just a super nonchalant attitude.
But our PC society where "everyone is special" would look down on women saying that up front.
Also being blunt isn't the way of the woman.
hope you dislike gender inequality because women are going to all stay in the kitchen if they really think like that (assuming that you're a woman, if you're not I don't see how you have authority on the issue)
anonymous is always ranting and raving about the woman liking the better man. What is the definition of the better man? Just looking better?
Dem shallow females.
If you could choose between an unnattractive girl and an attractive one, who would you choose?
Does that make you shallow?
I dunno. The 'nice guy' you describe is pretty much an awful human being, but you can be a nice person without beinga manipulative c**t.
I'm nice because that's how I am. It's weird, the only time I become not nice is basically when a woman tries to f**k with me. And I think that's the time I should be more nice.
If you could choose between an unnattractive girl and an attractive one, who would you choose?
Does that make you shallow?
Most nice guys are average. If I could pick between an average girl and a good looking girl? Well, which one has the better personality? Which one is funnier? Which has a hobby she is passionate about?
If you could choose between an unnattractive girl and an attractive one, who would you choose?
Does that make you shallow?
The one with a better personality.
You can't be a nice guy and get a girlfriend, period. You have to be the biggest alpha male you can be, never ask questions.
Don't ask her if she wants to go out, just upright say, "Let's go out, bitch." She'll go out with you if you're a big enough guy, muscle wise, that is.
You can't be a nice guy and get a girlfriend, period. You have to be the biggest alpha male you can be, never ask questions.
Don't ask her if she wants to go out, just upright say, "Let's go out, bitch." She'll go out with you if you're a big enough guy, muscle wise, that is.
inb4 dumbasses take this seriously.
The cum dumpster writes a few sentences in hopes that the more intelligent gender will take her mindless rants seriously, yet the real man simply sits at his desk and shakes his head whilst silently uttering the following words: bitches and wh**res...
I'm not a nice guy, but:
1. When you've done more for her than her boyfriend, what makes him more deserving of love than you?
2. Most nice guys aren't looking to get laid, they want love, this pretty much contradicts your first point.
3. When they do this you call them "disingenuous c**ts" for not liking the girl enough as a person to put up with being walked all over.
Die.
>I'm not a nice guy
Yes you are.
>1. When you've done more for her than her boyfriend, what makes him more deserving of love than you?
Maybe due to the fact that love can't be quantified by the amount of favors done to the other person. Just because you did her laundry and waited outside in the rain for 5 hours to get her tickets to a concert doesn't mean she should dump her boyfriend for being less desperate. And since you only did those things in the first place with the intention of getting sexual gratification, how does it make you any better?
>2. Most nice guys aren't looking to get laid, they want love, this pretty much contradicts your first point.
Yes they are. Sex might not be the only goal, but it is important to them. Plus, they aren't exactly looking for love, just attention due to the fact that no one will give it to them normally due to their self esteem issues. So, like it was stated above, they try to get those feelings out of a girl by doing favors in exchange for them.
>3. When they do this you call them "disingenuous c**ts" for not liking the girl enough as a person to put up with being walked all over.
So you're implying that healthy relationships involve the man being walked all over by the girl, because that shows how much he "likes her? This is typical nice guy logic, where in reality women want a strong man who makes them feel safe, is confident, and has high self esteem almost to the point where he is c**ky.
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>I'm not a nice guy
Yes you are.
>1. When you've done more for her than her boyfriend, what makes him more deserving of love than you?
Maybe due to the fact that love can't be quantified by the amount of favors done to the other person. Just because you did her laundry and waited outside in the rain for 5 hours to get her tickets to a concert doesn't mean she should dump her boyfriend for being less desperate. And since you only did those things in the first place with the intention of getting sexual gratification, how does it make you any better?
>2. Most nice guys aren't looking to get laid, they want love, this pretty much contradicts your first point.
Yes they are. Sex might not be the only goal, but it is important to them. Plus, they aren't exactly looking for love, just attention due to the fact that no one will give it to them normally due to their self esteem issues. So, like it was stated above, they try to get those feelings out of a girl by doing favors in exchange for them.
>3. When they do this you call them "disingenuous c**ts" for not liking the girl enough as a person to put up with being walked all over.
So you're implying that healthy relationships involve the man being walked all over by the girl, because that shows how much he "likes her? This is typical nice guy logic, where in reality women want a strong man who makes them feel safe, is confident, and has high self esteem almost to the point where he is c**ky.
continued in next post...
>continued
The best example I've seen of a contrast between an alpha male and a nice guy is online when engaging in a conversation with a women. At some point she will inevitably ask "so...what do you want to talk about?". The alpha male will take the lead of the conversation (if he hasn't already) because he is comfortable with woman and knows what interest them and what boundaries they put up at what time. The nice guy will say "I dunno, you pick". The woman becomes disinterested quickly because she realizes that the guy she is talking to isn't a leader. The nice guy says this because, in contrast to the desirable male, he doesn't have much experience with woman or with being a leader and is used to letting people string him along while he acts as a "yes man" in order to gain their shallow approval.
I have an image that couldn't describe the contrast between undesirable and desirable men better, but no one ever seems to pay it much attention because they either have short attention spans or are too ignorant to admit that it's right.
>I'm not a nice guy
Yes you are.
>1. When you've done more for her than her boyfriend, what makes him more deserving of love than you?
Maybe due to the fact that love can't be quantified by the amount of favors done to the other person. Just because you did her laundry and waited outside in the rain for 5 hours to get her tickets to a concert doesn't mean she should dump her boyfriend for being less desperate. And since you only did those things in the first place with the intention of getting sexual gratification, how does it make you any better?
>2. Most nice guys aren't looking to get laid, they want love, this pretty much contradicts your first point.
Yes they are. Sex might not be the only goal, but it is important to them. Plus, they aren't exactly looking for love, just attention due to the fact that no one will give it to them normally due to their self esteem issues. So, like it was stated above, they try to get those feelings out of a girl by doing favors in exchange for them.
>3. When they do this you call them "disingenuous c**ts" for not liking the girl enough as a person to put up with being walked all over.
So you're implying that healthy relationships involve the man being walked all over by the girl, because that shows how much he "likes her? This is typical nice guy logic, where in reality women want a strong man who makes them feel safe, is confident, and has high self esteem almost to the point where he is c**ky.
continued in next post...
>continued
The best example I've seen of a contrast between an alpha male and a nice guy is online when engaging in a conversation with a women. At some point she will inevitably ask "so...what do you want to talk about?". The alpha male will take the lead of the conversation (if he hasn't already) because he is comfortable with woman and knows what interest them and what boundaries they put up at what time. The nice guy will say "I dunno, you pick". The woman becomes disinterested quickly because she realizes that the guy she is talking to isn't a leader. The nice guy says this because, in contrast to the desirable male, he doesn't have much experience with woman or with being a leader and is used to letting people string him along while he acts as a "yes man" in order to gain their shallow approval.
I have an image that couldn't describe the contrast between undesirable and desirable men better, but no one ever seems to pay it much attention because they either have short attention spans or are too ignorant to admit that it's right.
Damn girl, u mad? I didn't read that by the way but, you're obviously pissed if you typed out all that.
ITT we learn that alphas are just an insecure as betas.
Damn girl, u mad? I didn't read that by the way but, you're obviously pissed if you typed out all that.
lol nice guy in denial
keep on crying yourself to sleep fa**ot ahahah
I'm not a nice guy, but:
1. When you've done more for her than her boyfriend, what makes him more deserving of love than you?
2. Most nice guys aren't looking to get laid, they want love, this pretty much contradicts your first point.
3. When they do this you call them "disingenuous c**ts" for not liking the girl enough as a person to put up with being walked all over.
Die.
1. No, that's not how love works.
2. "Nice guys" (as used in the pejorative sense) dont recognize the difference.
3. One can be both a disingenuous c**t and a victim. Sometimes blame isnt black and white.
But, that's just how I see it.
You can't be a nice guy and get a girlfriend, period. You have to be the biggest alpha male you can be, never ask questions.
Don't ask her if she wants to go out, just upright say, "Let's go out, bitch." She'll go out with you if you're a big enough guy, muscle wise, that is.
I was friends with my girl for a few months before I one evening put both hands behind her head, and went for the kiss. I said something like "this is something I've been wanting to do for a while, just let it happen"... then I kissed her, and she was in shock. Stood there and I said "it's something that had been building up for a while, just had to let go".. then she took my hand and we went to sit on her bed. Then followed the MOST INTENSE 45 minutes of my life, didn't believe I could impact a person that much.
>continued
The best example I've seen of a contrast between an alpha male and a nice guy is online when engaging in a conversation with a women. At some point she will inevitably ask "so...what do you want to talk about?". The alpha male will take the lead of the conversation (if he hasn't already) because he is comfortable with woman and knows what interest them and what boundaries they put up at what time. The nice guy will say "I dunno, you pick". The woman becomes disinterested quickly because she realizes that the guy she is talking to isn't a leader. The nice guy says this because, in contrast to the desirable male, he doesn't have much experience with woman or with being a leader and is used to letting people string him along while he acts as a "yes man" in order to gain their shallow approval.
I have an image that couldn't describe the contrast between undesirable and desirable men better, but no one ever seems to pay it much attention because they either have short attention spans or are too ignorant to admit that it's right.
>The nice guy will say "I dunno, you pick". The woman becomes disinterested quickly because she realizes that the guy she is talking to isn't a leader.
Oh, so it's all his fault for the guy not knowing of anything worth talking about after a lengthy conversation? The girl gets off free even though she doesn't know what the f**k to say either?
Damn girl, u mad? I didn't read that by the way but, you're obviously pissed if you typed out all that.
I just have a lot to say, even though it's basically pointless because no one really cares enough to read more than a seemingly witty one-liner or overused meme as a retort.
>The nice guy will say "I dunno, you pick". The woman becomes disinterested quickly because she realizes that the guy she is talking to isn't a leader.
Oh, so it's all his fault for the guy not knowing of anything worth talking about after a lengthy conversation? The girl gets off free even though she doesn't know what the f**k to say either?
Not to sound misogynistic, but women in general like to be the follower in a relationship. They, like I've said, are attracted to men who are strong and confident that possess the qualities of a leader. So comments like these are really just tests that they subconsciously give to men in order to see who is a desirable mate.
Also, conversation itself has a natural flow. If it is going well, both parties will contribute equally without any pseudo-interrogation questions or frequent awkward silences. However, the man is usually the one who is asked to start the conversation. Like I said, not being able to think of something and trying to defer the responsibility to the female just shows weakness. Unless your conversation is so bland that you constantly need to find new things to talk about, it's not like you need to be a fountain of interesting topics, but it doesn't hurt.
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