Wednesday, September 15, 2010

What's with Mr Darcy?

Can someone explain to me why the f**k every woman I know is in love with Mr. Darcy from Pride and Prejudice? He's basically a douche and they would all hate him in real life. Which is what happens in the novel, Elizabeth (the main character) dislikes him more and more over the course of the book until there's A TWEEST and he's somehow revealed to be not-a-douche. Except he is.
I am so confused about this sh*t.
Pic probably not related.




they watch the movie, therefore they are uneducated wh**res.
and that's why they like him.
/thread

just so you know, i actually rubbed my forehead in frustration, while thinking of the stupidity of your confusion.
that's all brohamskifu

Women will see a guy, go "Oh my god, he's so handsome and dreamy" and then make up excuses to justify almost any behavior on his part. And they will just find him to be nicer overall.

>he's somehow revealed to be not-a-douche
that's... kind of it? he turns out to be a socially awkward but (sexy and) nice guy?
you mad

bitches be trippin yo
bitch

Sounds glame.. That's why I always vigorously beat my women

yeah hes a douche.
also did anyone read ^Pride Predjudice and Zombies^

Mr. D'arcy is a jerk but he ends up helping Elizabeth's family and sh*t and shows he's a nice guy...or something it's been awhile.

Mr. D'arcy is a jerk but he ends up helping Elizabeth's family and sh*t and shows he's a nice guy...or something it's been awhile.

also remember it's all reletive to the time it was being written in.
Him being nice, is not exactly the same as a nice guy would be now.

Maybe..Bitches and Wh**res?

I always thought that it was more to do with the fact that he realised he was wrong and that he changes his mind about Elizabeth, due to Elizabeth herself. This translates as "he changed for her, even a man such as Darcy can change" and therefore they love the concept of him changing for THEM. He's also meant to be handsome and romantic, as well as being the "guy you can't have" so to speak, due to being very rich and of a high social standing, *SPOILER ALERT IF THERE HASN'T BEEN ALREADY* and in the end he marries her therefore translating into the small minds of women that they can get the man that it's seemingly impossible to get...

I always thought that it was more to do with the fact that he realised he was wrong and that he changes his mind about Elizabeth, due to Elizabeth herself. This translates as "he changed for her, even a man such as Darcy can change" and therefore they love the concept of him changing for THEM. He's also meant to be handsome and romantic, as well as being the "guy you can't have" so to speak, due to being very rich and of a high social standing, *SPOILER ALERT IF THERE HASN'T BEEN ALREADY* and in the end he marries her therefore translating into the small minds of women that they can get the man that it's seemingly impossible to get...

F**k, i hate women.

Uh, you probably just hang around weird women then. I only know of a handful of women who know who Mr. Darcy is, and I don't know a single one who is "in love" with him. He's make-believe.
Douchiness has nothing to do with hotness by the way.

Uh, you probably just hang around weird women then. I only know of a handful of women who know who Mr. Darcy is, and I don't know a single one who is "in love" with him. He's make-believe.
Douchiness has nothing to do with hotness by the way.

Yeah I know Pride and Prejudice is a "classic" but it's not exactly common reading.
I think there was a movie on it a while back, can't remember if he was hot or not. Not a very memorable character in particular.


F**k, i hate women.

I'm a guy and since I've never had female contact beyond holding hands with a drunk girl once, I'm guessing that everything I said in the comment you responded to you could and probably is wrong. These are just the most logical arguements I can come up with.

http://www.leakylounge.com/fall-love-Darcy-t61311.html
A five page thread by Mr Darcy fans. First comment:
>I suppose the thing about Darcy is the fact that, behind the pride, stemming perhaps from his up-bringing and character, he is quite a sensitive and generous man, plus he's also rich and good-looking, which always helps!!!

Watch the TV series if you can be bothered.
You'll figure it out.

Second comment:
>TWO WORDS...COLIN FIRTH
>Admitedly I adored Mr. Darcy the first time I read the book many many years ago, but frankly seeing the dashing Mr. Colin Firth as he SO PERFECTLY (yummily) portrayed him, I admit, shallow as it is, it swayed my mind and frankly enhanced the likability of the character in subsequent re-reads after seeing that film version of the book.

http://www.leakylounge.com/fall-love-Darcy-t61311.html
A five page thread by Mr Darcy fans. First comment:
>I suppose the thing about Darcy is the fact that, behind the pride, stemming perhaps from his up-bringing and character, he is quite a sensitive and generous man, plus he's also rich and good-looking, which always helps!!!

Inb4 bitches and wh**res.
It's a private joke from the book.

Third comment:
>Mr. Darcy, to try and put into one word is just a gentleman. It's so hard nowadays to find that type of gentleman in the real world. He has the perfect combination of subdued arrogance, aloofness, and haughtiness; mixed in with pride, and loyalty. Mr. Darcy also has a dry wit that begs for more, and he is so intelligent; something that I have a weakness for. He also has this capacity for deep and meaningful love. Mr. Darcy is almost, and I hate to say this, the perfect man all around. That's why it is a standard that is difficult to live up to. I am sure many women look for the "Mr. Darcy" type in the real world.


Yeah I know Pride and Prejudice is a "classic" but it's not exactly common reading.
I think there was a movie on it a while back, can't remember if he was hot or not. Not a very memorable character in particular.

Wait, are you guys mostly American?
There was a BBC series of Pride and Prejudice (that basically allowed me to pass my A-level on it) that had Colin Firth as Darcy and I know that a lot of British girls I know find him fairly hot as Darcy. The one in the terrible film that was more recent had a large nose and was full of poor acting and everything in general.

Fourth comment:
> Mr Darcy, in a lot of ways portrays simple human flaws that we all know exist: pride, arrogance and predjudice (not to steal an example from the title), yet he manages to overcome it, a trait i'm sure many women are banging their heads against doorjambs to get their men to do. At the same time, he displays his quiet demeanor and understanding by playing the hero behind the scenes, making his actions all the more meaningful because, unlike most men, he did it without expectation. Not to say anything against men in reality, but the simple fact remains that most people expect praise or acknowledgement for their efforts. Mr. Darcy did not. I think we all melt a little at that thought.


Wait, are you guys mostly American?
There was a BBC series of Pride and Prejudice (that basically allowed me to pass my A-level on it) that had Colin Firth as Darcy and I know that a lot of British girls I know find him fairly hot as Darcy. The one in the terrible film that was more recent had a large nose and was full of poor acting and everything in general.

Yeah I am American.....didn't even realize you could make a whole series out of a single book.

Sixth comment:
>Look: good girls like bad boys. It's just the truth. At the beginning of the story, Mr. Darcy is a bad boy. I mean, look at what passes for good manners. We hate him, and so, of course, find him very attractive. (I know, I know, reason and love keep very little company... yadda yadda yadda.)

Eighth Comment:
>Anyway, in all seriousness, though, I personally am not all that drawn to Mr. Darcy. If we're talking about Jane Austen characters, I would much rather have Mr. Knightley or Col. Brandon. (Why couldn't Colin Firth have played one of them...??) I think Mused hit the nail on the head though - Mr. Darcy is the stereotypical tall, dark and handsome type with the strong, silent personality. He's also a bit of a mystery-man, and who doesn't love a good mystery to sink their teeth into? He has everything that girls love about a "bad boy" with essentially none of the drawbacks. Honestly, he's a little too perfect, in my opinion... Who wants a perfect man? Heaven knows I'm not perfect, so that would be a lot to live up to... tongue.gif My friend says that books and movies should have "happily ever after" endings, because that's the only place we'll ever get them. I, being more of a cynic, usually prefer a little more realism, but to each his own. Any way you slice it, though, we all do yearn for some sort of fairy-tale ending at some point and in some area of our lives, and I think Mr. Darcy fits the bill for a lot of people's fairy-tale prince.

http://www.leakylounge.com/fall-love-Darcy-t61311.html
A five page thread by Mr Darcy fans. First comment:
>I suppose the thing about Darcy is the fact that, behind the pride, stemming perhaps from his up-bringing and character, he is quite a sensitive and generous man, plus he's also rich and good-looking, which always helps!!!

Second comment:
>TWO WORDS...COLIN FIRTH
>Admitedly I adored Mr. Darcy the first time I read the book many many years ago, but frankly seeing the dashing Mr. Colin Firth as he SO PERFECTLY (yummily) portrayed him, I admit, shallow as it is, it swayed my mind and frankly enhanced the likability of the character in subsequent re-reads after seeing that film version of the book.

Third comment:
>Mr. Darcy, to try and put into one word is just a gentleman. It's so hard nowadays to find that type of gentleman in the real world. He has the perfect combination of subdued arrogance, aloofness, and haughtiness; mixed in with pride, and loyalty. Mr. Darcy also has a dry wit that begs for more, and he is so intelligent; something that I have a weakness for. He also has this capacity for deep and meaningful love. Mr. Darcy is almost, and I hate to say this, the perfect man all around. That's why it is a standard that is difficult to live up to. I am sure many women look for the "Mr. Darcy" type in the real world.

Fourth comment:
> Mr Darcy, in a lot of ways portrays simple human flaws that we all know exist: pride, arrogance and predjudice (not to steal an example from the title), yet he manages to overcome it, a trait i'm sure many women are banging their heads against doorjambs to get their men to do. At the same time, he displays his quiet demeanor and understanding by playing the hero behind the scenes, making his actions all the more meaningful because, unlike most men, he did it without expectation. Not to say anything against men in reality, but the simple fact remains that most people expect praise or acknowledgement for their efforts. Mr. Darcy did not. I think we all melt a little at that thought.

brb shooting up gym


Yeah I am American.....didn't even realize you could make a whole series out of a single book.

That might explain why there aren't as many people there who have read / heard of it, for some reason we Brits seem to like it...
It's a pretty long book, but it's not like it was a 24 episode series of something, I can't remember how many episodes it had exactly, but it wasn't many more than 8, if that. It was very well made though, I must say and I didn't like the book at all.

Tenth comment:
>I have to agree with the bad boy remarks too. Not in the way we think of bad boys in modern films and such, because he's not rebellious or dangerous in the sense that he makes poor choices about life, like doing drugs or gambling or whatever. But he is a rebel in that he obviously doesn't care a twit about social regulation. In spite of his protestation that the Bennet family was socially embarrassing, he himself rebuffed social dictates in the rules of engagement and conversation.

Twelfth Comment:
>I think Mr. Darcy's appeal is that he loves Elizabeth for Elizabeth. In a time when it was expected that a marriage would be a contract between two people in order to best advance in society, he bucked the rules and wanted her because she was smart, witty, and a good match for himself and not his fortune. I think it was intentional on Austen's part that Jane was more beautiful, it eliminates one more reason that Darcy would be willing to go against what was expected of him. He was willing to sacrifice is personal societal standing, the support of his family, and suffer the relations with her family in order to be with her. What woman isn't going to melt when a man truly gives up everything because he loves her. *sigh* And it doesn't hurt to look like Colin Firth, either tongue.gif ! And all of it, might I add, with no true knowledge of her feelings for him.

Thirteenth comment:
>I think that what I find most attractive about Mr. Darcy is his character, the way he carries himself about the book, and his personality and I think also it's that he possessed this compassionate nature, pulled in by love. Any girl would feel an instant attraction to him for the simple fact that this strong, beautiful, ....prideful man could convey a high scale love. And the fact that the completely gorgeous Colin Firth portrayed this character only made me more in love. And his gallantry are enough to make anyone swoon.

yeah hes a douche.
also did anyone read ^Pride Predjudice and Zombies^

Pride and Prejudice and Zombies is crap. Complete and utter sh*t. I can easily believe that the actual book might well be more interesting.

Fourteenth Comment
>I'm afraid I can't give this a well written answer. I find that it boils down to several different things:
>1. His affections were intense - the ultimate flattery
>2. He was willing to do anything for Elizabeth, and proved it.
>3. He was handsome.
>4. He was very rich.
>5. He did have some mystery to him.
>6. Underneath it all, he was trully kind.

18th Coment:
>But as for Mr. Darcy.....I think what I like so much about him is that he really tries to change for Elizabeth. He does things for her that he would not have done for anyone else. I think it's really the effort he goes into for her that really gets me. That and he knows he is a snob and he shouldn't like her but he just can't help it. Doesn't everyone want some to think they are just truly irresistible?
>I also agree with Mused that it is refreshing that he falls in love with her mind and then the rest of her.

19th Comment:
>it's deffinitly the tall, dark, aloofness... aka the bad boy factor. albeit in a 19th century mild maner. i mean when i really think about it, the ideal guy for my particular personality type would be Mr. Knightly.... but then i think, how boring... Mr. Darcy adds some excitment to the mix. he's got it all, just like Mr. Knightly, but at the same time he does what he wants, yet doesn't go too far out side of social norms. basically he's a safe rebel.

20th Comment:
>I totally agree Sue. I think Colin Firth was the main reason for young girls swooning over Mr. Darcy. I read the books the first time, and loved this character, but it was after seeing Colin Firth in it that I totally lost it, so to speak! I guess whenever I read the book now, I still imagine him as Mr. Darcy!

Uh more from 20th comment I guess:
>This is the final proof of his perfection. Seriousely, here's this rich person, amazingly handsome, a thorough gentleman, AND he loves this girl truly, for what she is. Not because of how she looks, not because she's rich like him, not because his family says she's good, but because she has a wonderful personality. And at the end of the day, looks may fade, but this doesn't. I guess it's this intense love for Elizabeth that just seals the fact that he's every girl's dream date!

29th comment:
>At a time when marrying for money was completely acceptable and women as outspoken as Elizabeth were seen by some *cough*CatherineDeBourgh*cough* as not 'respectable', Darcy loved Elizabeth for her headstrong, outspoken, intelligent self. On top of that, he's dark, tall, handsome, and mysterious.

33rd comment:
>Mr. Darcy is the man of every womans dreams because he's so enclosed. He gets our attention because he talks for two seconds and remains a mystery. And it doesn't hurt that the men who play his part in the movies are extremely handsome.

Second comment:
>TWO WORDS...COLIN FIRTH
>Admitedly I adored Mr. Darcy the first time I read the book many many years ago, but frankly seeing the dashing Mr. Colin Firth as he SO PERFECTLY (yummily) portrayed him, I admit, shallow as it is, it swayed my mind and frankly enhanced the likability of the character in subsequent re-reads after seeing that film version of the book.

Yup, Colin Firth. Any girl who grew up with the BBC thinks of Colin Firth and only Colin Firth when they think of Mr Darcy. It's just true. And that, my dear bros, is enough.
Because COLIN FIRTH

40th comment:
>OK, but seriously, because he's a man of great integrity and honor. He's refined, elegant, educated, and a man of the world. He cares for his family, loves his friends, and has a HUGE mansion! I always think Lizzy sort of rethought her opinion of him when she saw his pile out there in Derbyshire, and who could blame her? And the report on him from the maid is even further evidence of his strong character. He's just a hot guy.
(Theres a big debate over whether Darcy is more like Harry Potter's dad or Snape....since this convo is lifted from an HP forum).

42nd comment:
>Darcy appeals to me I think because of his depth. Sometimes when a person (even fictional) is "mysterious" there turns out to be nothing once the mystery is discovered. That's not the case with Darcy. The more I find out about him (as happens with Lizzy) the more there is to like and admire. That initial negative impression is shown to be so completely wrong. His money and status actually makes it greater because too often when someone has money and status (and looks) there's no need to build personality. I've known so many people (male and female) who had money, looks, and status and were the shallowest people I've ever met. Not that they weren't capable of being more, but their attitude was why waste the effort on such self improvement. They already had everything.
(Also another debate over whether Darcy's wealth really matters when it comes to his attractiveness).

40th comment:
>OK, but seriously, because he's a man of great integrity and honor. He's refined, elegant, educated, and a man of the world. He cares for his family, loves his friends, and has a HUGE mansion! I always think Lizzy sort of rethought her opinion of him when she saw his pile out there in Derbyshire, and who could blame her? And the report on him from the maid is even further evidence of his strong character. He's just a hot guy.
(Theres a big debate over whether Darcy is more like Harry Potter's dad or Snape....since this convo is lifted from an HP forum).

>(Theres a big debate over whether Darcy is more like Harry Potter's dad or Snape....since this convo is lifted from an HP forum).
What the sh*t? Harry's dad isn't around for more than 30 seconds total, patronus time and all.

I'd let Mr. Darcy f**k me so hard I wouldn't be able to walk for a week.


>(Theres a big debate over whether Darcy is more like Harry Potter's dad or Snape....since this convo is lifted from an HP forum).
What the sh*t? Harry's dad isn't around for more than 30 seconds total, patronus time and all.

He has a flashback scene in book 5 plus these are HP fans so they are probably working off of their slash fanfics of him and Sirius Black or something.
But yeah, that about concludes the thread. In short, Darcy is handsome, wealthy, loves Elizabeth for who she is, rebellious, refined/gentlemanly and mysterious.

Eh. He's alright.

I liked his friend better. The shy, awkward one.


He has a flashback scene in book 5 plus these are HP fans so they are probably working off of their slash fanfics of him and Sirius Black or something.
But yeah, that about concludes the thread. In short, Darcy is handsome, wealthy, loves Elizabeth for who she is, rebellious, refined/gentlemanly and mysterious.

I've never seen Pride and Prejudice so all of this stuff seems extremely common sense to me. Wtf is OP on about?



brb shooting up gym

Wait what was so bad about that? I bet if you asked a forum full of guys why a particular girl is hot the answers would be way more shallow...something like "oh she has sexy feet" or something.


Pride and Prejudice and Zombies is crap. Complete and utter sh*t. I can easily believe that the actual book might well be more interesting.

Yeah it basically panders to the "lol zombies are funny" crowd. The book itself is total sh*t.


Wait what was so bad about that? I bet if you asked a forum full of guys why a particular girl is hot the answers would be way more shallow...something like "oh she has sexy feet" or something.

Yeah but "she's got attractive feature X Y or Z" is a legitimate answer to "Why is this girl hot"


Yeah but "she's got attractive feature X Y or Z" is a legitimate answer to "Why is this girl hot"

And he's got attractive feature X Y or Z is a legit answer to "why this guy is hot", so whats up with the gym remark?

I wish I was Mr. Darcy ;_;
I have a black friend named Darcy and he is incredibly smooth with the womenfolk. Damn him. Damn him twice.

I wish I was Mr. Darcy ;_;
I have a black friend named Darcy and he is incredibly smooth with the womenfolk. Damn him. Damn him twice.

Darcy is a pretty femmey name, I hate the "Mr" in front of too. I'm a female who has never seen/read any Pride and Prejudice but his name alone is highly unattractive and cartoonish.


Darcy is a pretty femmey name, I hate the "Mr" in front of too. I'm a female who has never seen/read any Pride and Prejudice but his name alone is highly unattractive and cartoonish.

The oceanfuls of pu**y my friend is swimming in says differently, but hey, to each their own.


The oceanfuls of pu**y my friend is swimming in says differently, but hey, to each their own.

Uh well no they aren't f**king him because his name is Darcy though. They are f**king him in spite of his name being Darcy, because a hot guy is a hot guy no matter what his name is.
What I was trying to say is that your friend has some sick parents because Darcy is a terrible name.

Maybe THIS is the reason:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTchxR4suto

Maybe THIS is the reason:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTchxR4suto

what is this show? i lol'd :D

The romantic interest in Wuthering Heights rapes the main character.
Women are all dumb sluts.

Darcy had a strong sense of ethics and responsibility: he tried to c**kblock his friend because he believed his friend was being duped into a marrage by a gold-digger, and when he realised he was mistaken, admitted to it and repaired that relationship. Even though he had nothing to benefit from it or had any obligation to, he tried to fix up the sh*t caused by someone who was only remotely related to him in a master-servant sense because he respected his father's wishes.
At the same time, he's a character that has quite human flaws. He's socially awkward, rude and spoils his younger sister to the point of fitting out whole rooms she takes a fancy in.
No matter what you think it is about, Darcy is a well-drawn character and is a bro's bro. You dipsh*ts should feel GOOD that women like characters like Darcy.

Darcy had a strong sense of ethics and responsibility: he tried to c**kblock his friend because he believed his friend was being duped into a marrage by a gold-digger, and when he realised he was mistaken, admitted to it and repaired that relationship. Even though he had nothing to benefit from it or had any obligation to, he tried to fix up the sh*t caused by someone who was only remotely related to him in a master-servant sense because he respected his father's wishes.
At the same time, he's a character that has quite human flaws. He's socially awkward, rude and spoils his younger sister to the point of fitting out whole rooms she takes a fancy in.
No matter what you think it is about, Darcy is a well-drawn character and is a bro's bro. You dipsh*ts should feel GOOD that women like characters like Darcy.

>>He's socially awkward, rude
Get your f**king asspie ass somewhere else, 4 eyed fa**ot.

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