Saturday, September 25, 2010

He's a friend but I force him into sex

Okay advice...I'm a bit drunk right now...and I figured I might as well ask, its not like you punks know who I am anyways.
So I've known this guy since we were in Junior High, and to be honest, we've never really dated officially or anything. He's sort of puts on this whole cold emotionless act all the time, Im not to sure if he's for real or just trying to be cool, but overall, he's just very quiet and morbid.
Since we were in highschool, we've been having sex as "Friends" I guess, and to be honest, most of the damn time, he doesn't seem to into it.
Now we're both in the same college, and we still hang from time to time, and sometimes it ends up in sex, and its all up to me to actually initiate it, and multiple times, he's turned me down actually.
We have this weird kink going on, where I basically force him to have sex with me, and he puts up SOME resistance, and sometimes he'll actually fight me off and leave. I mean just last week, I literally drugged his dinner when he came over to do study, and we had this light bondage play.
To be honest, Im not to sure what he's feeling, but I think I really want to have a relationship with him, but he doesn't seem to care about me that way, even though the sex (to me) is kinky as all hell. But for some reason I dont think he wants a relationship at all.
What do you guys think? Do you think he might honestly be some emotionless rat bastard or is he just totally into this thing we do. Like should I ask him that we go out on a date or something? cause we've just been doing it alot more than actually talking, and its me doing most of the work.
TL:DR=Friends with Benefit, I want to take it further, not sure if Guy is totally into it. How should I approach it?
And yes, I AM girl.
and before you guys start saying that he's totally into the kinky stuff, You guys have no idea how he acts, I swear to god he's a anon sometimes




I know who you are
you're a fa**ot that's who you are

stop having sex
watch what happens

Have you even talked to him about it..?? Try doing that, as it should be THE FIRST THING ANYONE DOES ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS. ALL OF YOUR F**KING "ACTIONS" AND "HE'S LIKE THIS". MEN NEED TO TALK.

stop having sex
watch what happens

This.

OP here
Have you even talked to him about it..?? Try doing that, as it should be THE FIRST THING ANYONE DOES ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS. ALL OF YOUR F**KING "ACTIONS" AND "HE'S LIKE THIS". MEN NEED TO TALK.

I'm a bit scared actually, I'm not to sure what his response will be, it' so hard to read him. I'm pretty open I think, and pretty out there. I'm pretty much a tomboy (haven't heard that word in a while). But being around him just makes me, I don't know how to explain it...confused and lightheaded most of the time.
stop having sex
watch what happens

and I think this probably will make me sound like a slut, but I think I'm honestly in love with him, when I'm in class and my mind wanders, it just goes to him, I dont know if I can take a week or few without him or something

The point of talking about something is to get it out. Talk to him and you'll stop wondering. Man up.

stop having sex
watch what happens

OP here
I'm a bit scared actually, I'm not to sure what his response will be, it' so hard to read him. I'm pretty open I think, and pretty out there. I'm pretty much a tomboy (haven't heard that word in a while). But being around him just makes me, I don't know how to explain it...confused and lightheaded most of the time.

and I think this probably will make me sound like a slut, but I think I'm honestly in love with him, when I'm in class and my mind wanders, it just goes to him, I dont know if I can take a week or few without him or something

i didn't mean stop hanging out with him, just stop having sex, and talk to him like what the others are saying
love isn't all about sex


i didn't mean stop hanging out with him, just stop having sex, and talk to him like what the others are saying
love isn't all about sex

I think the dude makes OP horny as f**k. Nothing else, based on her response.


I think the dude makes OP horny as f**k. Nothing else, based on her response.

yeah, sounds like it
wanna prove him wrong OP?

stop having sex
watch what happens

This. Stop having sex with him, while simultaneously making yourself sexier (in whatever ways). It WILL get to him.


i didn't mean stop hanging out with him, just stop having sex, and talk to him like what the others are saying
love isn't all about sex

OP here...okay....after some more drinking and thinking
I think I sorta tried distancing myself from him once during our freshman year in college, it honestly didnt work well for me on my end, I just completely ignored him, and he didn't come to seek me out, and in the end I broke down and I asked him to have dinner with me and go hang out and we ended up screwing the 2nd day.

I think the dude makes OP horny as f**k. Nothing else, based on her response.


yeah, sounds like it
wanna prove him wrong OP?

I dont think I can disapprove it, yes he really does turn me on now, but I really want something more than just f**king and some random talking every so often. I honestly can imagine myself getting married to him and having a life with him.

OP again, okay...I guess I'll take the route most ppl on advice give and just ask him about it...
but let's just say...in theory, that it doesnt turn out well for me, let's say that he doesnt follow the rules of the common man and says he doesn't want anything more than just friendship, what should I do?
I'm honestly thinking I'll than distance myself from him and see if he does anything, but I doubt he will based on previous experience
and let's just say I DISTANCE myself FIRST! and we don't f**k at all (god knows how long I can hold out) and we just act like normal friends
what if he DOESNT do anything? what should I do than?

The f**k? Don't force him to have sex with you, you blithering idiot.

Okay advice...I'm a bit drunk right now...and I figured I might as well ask, its not like you punks know who I am anyways.
So I've known this guy since we were in Junior High, and to be honest, we've never really dated officially or anything. He's sort of puts on this whole cold emotionless act all the time, Im not to sure if he's for real or just trying to be cool, but overall, he's just very quiet and morbid.
Since we were in highschool, we've been having sex as "Friends" I guess, and to be honest, most of the damn time, he doesn't seem to into it.
Now we're both in the same college, and we still hang from time to time, and sometimes it ends up in sex, and its all up to me to actually initiate it, and multiple times, he's turned me down actually.
We have this weird kink going on, where I basically force him to have sex with me, and he puts up SOME resistance, and sometimes he'll actually fight me off and leave. I mean just last week, I literally drugged his dinner when he came over to do study, and we had this light bondage play.
To be honest, Im not to sure what he's feeling, but I think I really want to have a relationship with him, but he doesn't seem to care about me that way, even though the sex (to me) is kinky as all hell. But for some reason I dont think he wants a relationship at all.
What do you guys think? Do you think he might honestly be some emotionless rat bastard or is he just totally into this thing we do. Like should I ask him that we go out on a date or something? cause we've just been doing it alot more than actually talking, and its me doing most of the work.
TL:DR=Friends with Benefit, I want to take it further, not sure if Guy is totally into it. How should I approach it?
And yes, I AM girl.
and before you guys start saying that he's totally into the kinky stuff, You guys have no idea how he acts, I swear to god he's a anon sometimes

okay, if OP really is a f**king girl, and this is NOT troll, holy sh*t that is some hot sh*t, why can't I have a relationship liek that god damn


OP here...okay....after some more drinking and thinking
I think I sorta tried distancing myself from him once during our freshman year in college, it honestly didnt work well for me on my end, I just completely ignored him, and he didn't come to seek me out, and in the end I broke down and I asked him to have dinner with me and go hang out and we ended up screwing the 2nd day.

I dont think I can disapprove it, yes he really does turn me on now, but I really want something more than just f**king and some random talking every so often. I honestly can imagine myself getting married to him and having a life with him.

That is your point of view. Granted, I can't really tell what he's thinking, but the way you put everything it seems he's not that into you and I'm afraid it might be pity f**ks. Take this with a grain of salt. How close are you really? Do you do anything else but have sex? Can you imagine him really and honestly being there for you? Can you be sure he will give you emotional support and soothe your appetite for love?
There is only one way to find out.
F**KING TALK TO HIM ABOUT THIS SH*T. YOU WANT AN ANSWER? THEN ASK HIM ABOUT IT. YOU HAVE YET TO DO THIS. WHY HAVEN'T YOU DONE THIS? YOU WILL FEEL BETTER AFTER YOU ASK HIM. YOU WILL STOP WONDERING. STOP CLINGING ON TO WISHES AND MAKE YOUR DREAMS REALITY. F**K I DON'T CARE. CAPS LOCK IS AWESOME.

The f**k? Don't force him to have sex with you, you blithering idiot.

OP
no, I think its all part of the foreplay we do, I think he's sort of into it, but than again, I'm not to sure, its sorta confusing to me, like I always sort of have to break away at this wall before he get's a little bit into it
I mean for one instance, this one night when I started on him, he started moving away from me on the couch, and kept on avoiding looking at me until I put my hand down his pants and had a firm grip on his balls before he stopped moving to much, and than we sort've started.
but like everytime we do it, he's always so quiet, he just makes some small grunts every so often, but he just doenst moan or say anything, im not sure if he enjoys it or not,
F**K, just thinking about it makes me annoyed, is there anyway to know if he's into me or not!?

Now all you lonely nerds who are on this board who read this thread realize:
Don't give a f**k about her and she will be ALL OVER YOUR SH*T.


That is your point of view. Granted, I can't really tell what he's thinking, but the way you put everything it seems he's not that into you and I'm afraid it might be pity f**ks. Take this with a grain of salt. How close are you really? Do you do anything else but have sex? Can you imagine him really and honestly being there for you? Can you be sure he will give you emotional support and soothe your appetite for love?
There is only one way to find out.
F**KING TALK TO HIM ABOUT THIS SH*T. YOU WANT AN ANSWER? THEN ASK HIM ABOUT IT. YOU HAVE YET TO DO THIS. WHY HAVEN'T YOU DONE THIS? YOU WILL FEEL BETTER AFTER YOU ASK HIM. YOU WILL STOP WONDERING. STOP CLINGING ON TO WISHES AND MAKE YOUR DREAMS REALITY. F**K I DON'T CARE. CAPS LOCK IS AWESOME.

I think OP is scared to talk to him, be nice, most girls don't actually do the talking and initiate touchy feely stuff like this.

OP again, okay...I guess I'll take the route most ppl on advice give and just ask him about it...
but let's just say...in theory, that it doesnt turn out well for me, let's say that he doesnt follow the rules of the common man and says he doesn't want anything more than just friendship, what should I do?
I'm honestly thinking I'll than distance myself from him and see if he does anything, but I doubt he will based on previous experience
and let's just say I DISTANCE myself FIRST! and we don't f**k at all (god knows how long I can hold out) and we just act like normal friends
what if he DOESNT do anything? what should I do than?


OP
no, I think its all part of the foreplay we do, I think he's sort of into it, but than again, I'm not to sure, its sorta confusing to me, like I always sort of have to break away at this wall before he get's a little bit into it
I mean for one instance, this one night when I started on him, he started moving away from me on the couch, and kept on avoiding looking at me until I put my hand down his pants and had a firm grip on his balls before he stopped moving to much, and than we sort've started.
but like everytime we do it, he's always so quiet, he just makes some small grunts every so often, but he just doenst moan or say anything, im not sure if he enjoys it or not,
F**K, just thinking about it makes me annoyed, is there anyway to know if he's into me or not!?

F**KING ASK HIM. YOU CAN'T BE THIS STUPID.


That is your point of view. Granted, I can't really tell what he's thinking, but the way you put everything it seems he's not that into you and I'm afraid it might be pity f**ks. Take this with a grain of salt. How close are you really? Do you do anything else but have sex? Can you imagine him really and honestly being there for you? Can you be sure he will give you emotional support and soothe your appetite for love?
There is only one way to find out.
F**KING TALK TO HIM ABOUT THIS SH*T. YOU WANT AN ANSWER? THEN ASK HIM ABOUT IT. YOU HAVE YET TO DO THIS. WHY HAVEN'T YOU DONE THIS? YOU WILL FEEL BETTER AFTER YOU ASK HIM. YOU WILL STOP WONDERING. STOP CLINGING ON TO WISHES AND MAKE YOUR DREAMS REALITY. F**K I DON'T CARE. CAPS LOCK IS AWESOME.

I wish i could pity f**k girls T_T


OP here...okay....after some more drinking and thinking
I think I sorta tried distancing myself from him once during our freshman year in college, it honestly didnt work well for me on my end, I just completely ignored him, and he didn't come to seek me out, and in the end I broke down and I asked him to have dinner with me and go hang out and we ended up screwing the 2nd day.

I dont think I can disapprove it, yes he really does turn me on now, but I really want something more than just f**king and some random talking every so often. I honestly can imagine myself getting married to him and having a life with him.

i can see the future and yours doesn't look very bright if you stay with him. it doesn't even sound like you're friends, it sounds like you're just this person he knows and says "whatever" or "ok" if you ask him if he wants to do something with you because he doesn't have anything better to do
you have no reason to believe me but i think it would be better in the long run if you do.
i'm not sure if everything i said will make sense to you but it does to me.

Now all you lonely nerds who are on this board who read this thread realize:
Don't give a f**k about her and she will be ALL OVER YOUR SH*T.

You gave me hope. No matter ow stupid this might be, it still gives me hope. Seriously todays society is f**ked up stupid.

OP here

That is your point of view. Granted, I can't really tell what he's thinking, but the way you put everything it seems he's not that into you and I'm afraid it might be pity f**ks. Take this with a grain of salt. How close are you really? Do you do anything else but have sex? Can you imagine him really and honestly being there for you? Can you be sure he will give you emotional support and soothe your appetite for love?
There is only one way to find out.
F**KING TALK TO HIM ABOUT THIS SH*T. YOU WANT AN ANSWER? THEN ASK HIM ABOUT IT. YOU HAVE YET TO DO THIS. WHY HAVEN'T YOU DONE THIS? YOU WILL FEEL BETTER AFTER YOU ASK HIM. YOU WILL STOP WONDERING. STOP CLINGING ON TO WISHES AND MAKE YOUR DREAMS REALITY. F**K I DON'T CARE. CAPS LOCK IS AWESOME.


F**KING ASK HIM. YOU CAN'T BE THIS STUPID.

OKay okay, god, You guys keep on saying to talk to him, but what the hell should I say? He's quiet enough as it is, like what the hell should I start off with? And nobodies told me about what I should do if he doesn't want to be in a relationship? I don't think I cant take that type of rejection, honestly, I know this sounds like the worst possible route, but I feel like I should just play it safe and at least be able to make love with him and not ruin that balance.
I don't know..
and yes...I honestly can see him being there for me, as stoic as he f**king is, he is a nice person deep down inside, he's helped alot of people in our group of friends many times with personal and financial problems, and so many times I've seen him do things for friends that most people won't do.
I have yet to see him turn down a friend in need, and he's always there to listen with sage advice, but he seems so closed off from everyone though, our group of friends barely know anything about him personally. We know like some stuff in terms of birthday and such, but we hardly know his interests and all, he's always so closed off.

OP here

OKay okay, god, You guys keep on saying to talk to him, but what the hell should I say? He's quiet enough as it is, like what the hell should I start off with? And nobodies told me about what I should do if he doesn't want to be in a relationship? I don't think I cant take that type of rejection, honestly, I know this sounds like the worst possible route, but I feel like I should just play it safe and at least be able to make love with him and not ruin that balance.
I don't know..
and yes...I honestly can see him being there for me, as stoic as he f**king is, he is a nice person deep down inside, he's helped alot of people in our group of friends many times with personal and financial problems, and so many times I've seen him do things for friends that most people won't do.
I have yet to see him turn down a friend in need, and he's always there to listen with sage advice, but he seems so closed off from everyone though, our group of friends barely know anything about him personally. We know like some stuff in terms of birthday and such, but we hardly know his interests and all, he's always so closed off.

Oh god, OP here, I just realized, do you guys think he might have some kind of social thing wrong with his brain? I'm a bit tired and woozy right now so I can't remember the correct term, but like aspergers or something?!

Now all you lonely nerds who are on this board who read this thread realize:
Don't give a f**k about her and she will be ALL OVER YOUR SH*T.

lonely nerd should stfu


That is your point of view. Granted, I can't really tell what he's thinking, but the way you put everything it seems he's not that into you and I'm afraid it might be pity f**ks. Take this with a grain of salt. How close are you really? Do you do anything else but have sex? Can you imagine him really and honestly being there for you? Can you be sure he will give you emotional support and soothe your appetite for love?
There is only one way to find out.
F**KING TALK TO HIM ABOUT THIS SH*T. YOU WANT AN ANSWER? THEN ASK HIM ABOUT IT. YOU HAVE YET TO DO THIS. WHY HAVEN'T YOU DONE THIS? YOU WILL FEEL BETTER AFTER YOU ASK HIM. YOU WILL STOP WONDERING. STOP CLINGING ON TO WISHES AND MAKE YOUR DREAMS REALITY. F**K I DON'T CARE. CAPS LOCK IS AWESOME.

O_O I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF A GUY PITY F**KING A GIRL...wow....srsly....

OP here

OKay okay, god, You guys keep on saying to talk to him, but what the hell should I say? He's quiet enough as it is, like what the hell should I start off with? And nobodies told me about what I should do if he doesn't want to be in a relationship? I don't think I cant take that type of rejection, honestly, I know this sounds like the worst possible route, but I feel like I should just play it safe and at least be able to make love with him and not ruin that balance.
I don't know..
and yes...I honestly can see him being there for me, as stoic as he f**king is, he is a nice person deep down inside, he's helped alot of people in our group of friends many times with personal and financial problems, and so many times I've seen him do things for friends that most people won't do.
I have yet to see him turn down a friend in need, and he's always there to listen with sage advice, but he seems so closed off from everyone though, our group of friends barely know anything about him personally. We know like some stuff in terms of birthday and such, but we hardly know his interests and all, he's always so closed off.

I think nobody here and OP herself has realized one thing...it seems that this boy of her's is a little bit into the whole fetish of femdom and stuff a little, like just lightly
Has OP ever given thought to maybe he's also f**king other girls? maybe you're not the only one OP, maybe he has other women that you don't know about, you say that you barely know anything about him, who knows what he does when you're not around with you and your friends?


lonely nerd should stfu


I think nobody here and OP herself has realized one thing...it seems that this boy of her's is a little bit into the whole fetish of femdom and stuff a little, like just lightly
Has OP ever given thought to maybe he's also f**king other girls? maybe you're not the only one OP, maybe he has other women that you don't know about, you say that you barely know anything about him, who knows what he does when you're not around with you and your friends?

And the only way to find out is to...? All together now..!


Oh god, OP here, I just realized, do you guys think he might have some kind of social thing wrong with his brain? I'm a bit tired and woozy right now so I can't remember the correct term, but like aspergers or something?!

maybe he's actually a REAL extremely shy lonely troubled guy that some guys pretend to be to get attention but he doesn't give a f**k about shallow relationships and just wants one realy deep relationship and might commit suicide some time between next week and next year or he's still holding on to life because of you and blablabla............. what was i talking about?


maybe

OP here

OKay okay, god, You guys keep on saying to talk to him, but what the hell should I say? He's quiet enough as it is, like what the hell should I start off with? And nobodies told me about what I should do if he doesn't want to be in a relationship? I don't think I cant take that type of rejection, honestly, I know this sounds like the worst possible route, but I feel like I should just play it safe and at least be able to make love with him and not ruin that balance.
I don't know..
and yes...I honestly can see him being there for me, as stoic as he f**king is, he is a nice person deep down inside, he's helped alot of people in our group of friends many times with personal and financial problems, and so many times I've seen him do things for friends that most people won't do.
I have yet to see him turn down a friend in need, and he's always there to listen with sage advice, but he seems so closed off from everyone though, our group of friends barely know anything about him personally. We know like some stuff in terms of birthday and such, but we hardly know his interests and all, he's always so closed off.

If you really are good friends then him rejecting you shouldn't make things break. It appears you are afraid to ask him because you are afraid of the truth.

I think nobody here and OP herself has realized one thing...it seems that this boy of her's is a little bit into the whole fetish of femdom and stuff a little, like just lightly
Has OP ever given thought to maybe he's also f**king other girls? maybe you're not the only one OP, maybe he has other women that you don't know about, you say that you barely know anything about him, who knows what he does when you're not around with you and your friends?
might be right and he's doing other girls too.


I think nobody here and OP herself has realized one thing...it seems that this boy of her's is a little bit into the whole fetish of femdom and stuff a little, like just lightly
Has OP ever given thought to maybe he's also f**king other girls? maybe you're not the only one OP, maybe he has other women that you don't know about, you say that you barely know anything about him, who knows what he does when you're not around with you and your friends?

OP here

OKay okay, god, You guys keep on saying to talk to him, but what the hell should I say? He's quiet enough as it is, like what the hell should I start off with? And nobodies told me about what I should do if he doesn't want to be in a relationship? I don't think I cant take that type of rejection, honestly, I know this sounds like the worst possible route, but I feel like I should just play it safe and at least be able to make love with him and not ruin that balance.
I don't know..
and yes...I honestly can see him being there for me, as stoic as he f**king is, he is a nice person deep down inside, he's helped alot of people in our group of friends many times with personal and financial problems, and so many times I've seen him do things for friends that most people won't do.
I have yet to see him turn down a friend in need, and he's always there to listen with sage advice, but he seems so closed off from everyone though, our group of friends barely know anything about him personally. We know like some stuff in terms of birthday and such, but we hardly know his interests and all, he's always so closed off.

okay, personally I think OP's f**k buddy is trying rEALLY hard not to continually f**k the OP as to maintain the friendship, he sounds like the generic "nice guy" but with oddities, as apparently a girl wants him,but he's not doing anything about it
I mean regardless of how emotionless your boy is OP, he's still a guy, if a girl grabs any man's dick regardless if he is the most faithful christian husband ever, he's going to give in and f**k
it sounds like he's always trying to avoid the f**king, and you're just pushing him into it and of course any horny ass college kid will f**k when given the chance!
think about that OP, if he's really as "Wise" as you say he is, he's probably trying to maintain a friendship that might be ruined if you guys go out.


maybe he's actually a REAL extremely shy lonely troubled guy that some guys pretend to be to get attention but he doesn't give a f**k about shallow relationships and just wants one realy deep relationship and might commit suicide some time between next week and next year or he's still holding on to life because of you and blablabla............. what was i talking about?

wtf are you talking about?

OP here
OKAY OKAY! GOD I GET IT, GO TALK TO HIM, but can SOMEBODY tell me what I should do if he turns me down

I think nobody here and OP herself has realized one thing...it seems that this boy of her's is a little bit into the whole fetish of femdom and stuff a little, like just lightly
Has OP ever given thought to maybe he's also f**king other girls? maybe you're not the only one OP, maybe he has other women that you don't know about, you say that you barely know anything about him, who knows what he does when you're not around with you and your friends?

and please, i dont want to think about that, as much as I'm open to a threesome or anything, I dont want to think that another girl is screwing him behind my back

maybe he's actually a REAL extremely shy lonely troubled guy that some guys pretend to be to get attention but he doesn't give a f**k about shallow relationships and just wants one realy deep relationship and might commit suicide some time between next week and next year or he's still holding on to life because of you and blablabla............. what was i talking about?

and i sincerely doubt that he would kill himself, i dont know, he doesnt seem like the type to do so
BUT OKAY, IM GOING TO GO TALK TO HIM, BUT CAN I AT LEAST GET AN IDEA HOW I SHOULD DO DO IT?!
everyday advice says to man up etc etc. but never says how to do it, can I get an example for my case? I think its a bit more special than most people's

OP here
OKAY OKAY! GOD I GET IT, GO TALK TO HIM, but can SOMEBODY tell me what I should do if he turns me down

and please, i dont want to think about that, as much as I'm open to a threesome or anything, I dont want to think that another girl is screwing him behind my back

and i sincerely doubt that he would kill himself, i dont know, he doesnt seem like the type to do so
BUT OKAY, IM GOING TO GO TALK TO HIM, BUT CAN I AT LEAST GET AN IDEA HOW I SHOULD DO DO IT?!
everyday advice says to man up etc etc. but never says how to do it, can I get an example for my case? I think its a bit more special than most people's

next time you guys f**k, ask him if he loves you...

OP here
OKAY OKAY! GOD I GET IT, GO TALK TO HIM, but can SOMEBODY tell me what I should do if he turns me down

and please, i dont want to think about that, as much as I'm open to a threesome or anything, I dont want to think that another girl is screwing him behind my back

and i sincerely doubt that he would kill himself, i dont know, he doesnt seem like the type to do so
BUT OKAY, IM GOING TO GO TALK TO HIM, BUT CAN I AT LEAST GET AN IDEA HOW I SHOULD DO DO IT?!
everyday advice says to man up etc etc. but never says how to do it, can I get an example for my case? I think its a bit more special than most people's

When your with him, open your mouth and tell him that you want a relationship with him. There is no magic. There is only the truth.

OP here
OKAY OKAY! GOD I GET IT, GO TALK TO HIM, but can SOMEBODY tell me what I should do if he turns me down

and please, i dont want to think about that, as much as I'm open to a threesome or anything, I dont want to think that another girl is screwing him behind my back

and i sincerely doubt that he would kill himself, i dont know, he doesnt seem like the type to do so
BUT OKAY, IM GOING TO GO TALK TO HIM, BUT CAN I AT LEAST GET AN IDEA HOW I SHOULD DO DO IT?!
everyday advice says to man up etc etc. but never says how to do it, can I get an example for my case? I think its a bit more special than most people's

When you're alone with him do this:

When your with him, open your mouth and tell him that you want a relationship with him. There is no magic. There is only the truth.
, do not hesitate. You WANT to ask him. Asking him will rid you of all confusion.


When your with him, open your mouth and tell him that you want a relationship with him. There is no magic. There is only the truth.

WHAT SHOULD I DO IF HE SAYS NO, NOBODY IS ANSWERING ME


WHAT SHOULD I DO IF HE SAYS NO, NOBODY IS ANSWERING ME

The question is, how do you think you'll feel about staying f**k buddies if he refuses a relationship? if you don't like the idea, you have your answer.. either friends (no benefits), or nothing. if you don't mind continuing the f**k buddy system, there you go.


WHAT SHOULD I DO IF HE SAYS NO, NOBODY IS ANSWERING ME

Think. Calm down and think goddammit. What would you WANT to happen if he says no? If he is your friend, then you have nothing to worry about as you will still continue to be friends. If, and this is a big if, he says he can't be friends with you, then he's not much to have. It seems you have not yet experienced a break up or some relational ties being cut. It hurts, but you will learn that you can get over it.
Now, We are all pretty damn sure that you will keep on being friends if he says no. But it seems to me that you may very well WANT him to say no. If you really want to know, ask. There is no other way around it. These things happen daily here at advice, maybe you could check up on it.
Don't worry and don't hesitate.

If he says no then just say "Well, you know how i feel if you change your mind" then proceed to initiate sexual intercourse. However have you heard the phrase "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free" I'm not sure if he has that mentality due to lack of emotions and his refusals...


Think. Calm down and think goddammit. What would you WANT to happen if he says no? If he is your friend, then you have nothing to worry about as you will still continue to be friends. If, and this is a big if, he says he can't be friends with you, then he's not much to have. It seems you have not yet experienced a break up or some relational ties being cut. It hurts, but you will learn that you can get over it.
Now, We are all pretty damn sure that you will keep on being friends if he says no. But it seems to me that you may very well WANT him to say no. If you really want to know, ask. There is no other way around it. These things happen daily here at advice, maybe you could check up on it.
Don't worry and don't hesitate.


The question is, how do you think you'll feel about staying f**k buddies if he refuses a relationship? if you don't like the idea, you have your answer.. either friends (no benefits), or nothing. if you don't mind continuing the f**k buddy system, there you go.

If he says no then just say "Well, you know how i feel if you change your mind" then proceed to initiate sexual intercourse. However have you heard the phrase "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free" I'm not sure if he has that mentality due to lack of emotions and his refusals...

OP final post for now, I'll probably be back if the thread is still alive by the end of today.
OKay, fine, Ill go talk to him, and no, I really would prefer if he didnt say no, but I wouldnt want to lose his friendship either, but than if he says no and we stay friends, i feel like it will feel immensely awkward...
but ill go talk to him, thanks advice ill be back



OP final post for now, I'll probably be back if the thread is still alive by the end of today.
OKay, fine, Ill go talk to him, and no, I really would prefer if he didnt say no, but I wouldnt want to lose his friendship either, but than if he says no and we stay friends, i feel like it will feel immensely awkward...
but ill go talk to him, thanks advice ill be back

Remember, everything will only feel how you want it to feel like. There is nothing stopping anyone besides themselves.

He's bored by you hon. Sorry, but it's true. The sex is old, he takes it for granted and only has it when he's horny, not when you are. Start dating someone else and cut him off. See how he reacts. Better, start dating and f**king someone else instead of sticking with some guy who is using you.

=O I WANT TO BE OP'S F**K TOY

You probably spoiled your chance of any type of relationship with this man. You pushed sex on him so much, he doesn't think as you as a relationship, because you are too "easy".. Guys like a challenge, they don't want some easy girl that gives in. If he really wanted to be with you, he would of already took it the next step. This is in your mind OP, and you need to move the f**k on k?

you drugged him? thats so hot. howd you do it?

hahhahahaha i would so report this bitch to the police

He's bored by you hon. Sorry, but it's true. The sex is old, he takes it for granted and only has it when he's horny, not when you are. Start dating someone else and cut him off. See how he reacts. Better, start dating and f**king someone else instead of sticking with some guy who is using you.

>bitch literally drugs and rapes a guy
>accuse him of using her
ahahhhahahahhahahha

Okay advice...I'm a bit drunk right now...and I figured I might as well ask, its not like you punks know who I am anyways.
So I've known this guy since we were in Junior High, and to be honest, we've never really dated officially or anything. He's sort of puts on this whole cold emotionless act all the time, Im not to sure if he's for real or just trying to be cool, but overall, he's just very quiet and morbid.
Since we were in highschool, we've been having sex as "Friends" I guess, and to be honest, most of the damn time, he doesn't seem to into it.
Now we're both in the same college, and we still hang from time to time, and sometimes it ends up in sex, and its all up to me to actually initiate it, and multiple times, he's turned me down actually.
We have this weird kink going on, where I basically force him to have sex with me, and he puts up SOME resistance, and sometimes he'll actually fight me off and leave. I mean just last week, I literally drugged his dinner when he came over to do study, and we had this light bondage play.
To be honest, Im not to sure what he's feeling, but I think I really want to have a relationship with him, but he doesn't seem to care about me that way, even though the sex (to me) is kinky as all hell. But for some reason I dont think he wants a relationship at all.
What do you guys think? Do you think he might honestly be some emotionless rat bastard or is he just totally into this thing we do. Like should I ask him that we go out on a date or something? cause we've just been doing it alot more than actually talking, and its me doing most of the work.
TL:DR=Friends with Benefit, I want to take it further, not sure if Guy is totally into it. How should I approach it?
And yes, I AM girl.
and before you guys start saying that he's totally into the kinky stuff, You guys have no idea how he acts, I swear to god he's a anon sometimes

Buy a copy of "He's not that into you" and read it. See yourself reflected in the pages. Here: http://www.amazon.com/Hes-Just-That-Into-Understanding/dp/141690977X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271175340&sr=8-2
OP here
OKAY OKAY! GOD I GET IT, GO TALK TO HIM, but can SOMEBODY tell me what I should do if he turns me down

and please, i dont want to think about that, as much as I'm open to a threesome or anything, I dont want to think that another girl is screwing him behind my back

and i sincerely doubt that he would kill himself, i dont know, he doesnt seem like the type to do so
BUT OKAY, IM GOING TO GO TALK TO HIM, BUT CAN I AT LEAST GET AN IDEA HOW I SHOULD DO DO IT?!
everyday advice says to man up etc etc. but never says how to do it, can I get an example for my case? I think its a bit more special than most people's
SOMEBODY tell me what I should do if he turns me down
Get on with your life. What, you think you'll be the only girl in the world that's ever been rejected?

Really? It's THIS thread again? I'm really f**king sick of seeing it.
To all you males out there who are doing this: sex is NOT in high demand for females, whereas it's in extremely high demand for males. Therefore, if you're a male and sex is readily available from a female, and you are not a homosexual, DON'T F**KING WITHHOLD IT FROM THE FEW FEMALES THAT ACTUALLY WANT YOUR SHORT WRINKLY C**KS.
I just don't understand. How the f**k can there actually be men out there who just think, "Sex? NAH. It can wait." I mean what the f**k people. This is what girls do. GIRLS. Not men. Men want sex. Always. Girls don't want sex. Never. These are the rules. Follow them.
No more threads like this unless it's actually a MAN complaining about his girl withholding sex, as it should be.
Jesus Christ.

Really? It's THIS thread again? I'm really f**king sick of seeing it.
To all you males out there who are doing this: sex is NOT in high demand for females, whereas it's in extremely high demand for males. Therefore, if you're a male and sex is readily available from a female, and you are not a homosexual, DON'T F**KING WITHHOLD IT FROM THE FEW FEMALES THAT ACTUALLY WANT YOUR SHORT WRINKLY C**KS.
I just don't understand. How the f**k can there actually be men out there who just think, "Sex? NAH. It can wait." I mean what the f**k people. This is what girls do. GIRLS. Not men. Men want sex. Always. Girls don't want sex. Never. These are the rules. Follow them.
No more threads like this unless it's actually a MAN complaining about his girl withholding sex, as it should be.
Jesus Christ.

>implying guys like sex more than girls
it's the opposite bruv
+ girls are just aesthetically inferior the males
so pretty much being a guy owns i f**k girls whenever i want and it is easy as hell

Here, I even found you a free copy: http://win7dl.com/e-books/10976-hes-just-not-that-into-you.html

Really? It's THIS thread again? I'm really f**king sick of seeing it.
To all you males out there who are doing this: sex is NOT in high demand for females, whereas it's in extremely high demand for males. Therefore, if you're a male and sex is readily available from a female, and you are not a homosexual, DON'T F**KING WITHHOLD IT FROM THE FEW FEMALES THAT ACTUALLY WANT YOUR SHORT WRINKLY C**KS.
I just don't understand. How the f**k can there actually be men out there who just think, "Sex? NAH. It can wait." I mean what the f**k people. This is what girls do. GIRLS. Not men. Men want sex. Always. Girls don't want sex. Never. These are the rules. Follow them.
No more threads like this unless it's actually a MAN complaining about his girl withholding sex, as it should be.
Jesus Christ.

It's almost like you purposefully wrote the exact opposite of reality

Really? It's THIS thread again? I'm really f**king sick of seeing it.
To all you males out there who are doing this: sex is NOT in high demand for females, whereas it's in extremely high demand for males. Therefore, if you're a male and sex is readily available from a female, and you are not a homosexual, DON'T F**KING WITHHOLD IT FROM THE FEW FEMALES THAT ACTUALLY WANT YOUR SHORT WRINKLY C**KS.
I just don't understand. How the f**k can there actually be men out there who just think, "Sex? NAH. It can wait." I mean what the f**k people. This is what girls do. GIRLS. Not men. Men want sex. Always. Girls don't want sex. Never. These are the rules. Follow them.
No more threads like this unless it's actually a MAN complaining about his girl withholding sex, as it should be.
Jesus Christ.

this guy has probably never been on a date and learned all he knows about human interaction from sitcoms


>implying guys like sex more than girls
it's the opposite bruv
+ girls are just aesthetically inferior the males
so pretty much being a guy owns i f**k girls whenever i want and it is easy as hell

Well then, these extra horny girls should come and find me, or at least tell me they want my c**k when I offer. I would gladly do that for them, but NOOOOOO they want to use their minds to determine whether or not to f**k. Still baffles me how any living creature can do that. I mean, you see two birds or dogs or something, and they just see each other and F**K.
But humans, oh no, we have to judge interpersonal communication skills, clothing, interests, confidence, etc. Aka, how well we can trick people into liking us.
This cool story brought to you by bro.

Really? It's THIS thread again? I'm really f**king sick of seeing it.
To all you males out there who are doing this: sex is NOT in high demand for females, whereas it's in extremely high demand for males. Therefore, if you're a male and sex is readily available from a female, and you are not a homosexual, DON'T F**KING WITHHOLD IT FROM THE FEW FEMALES THAT ACTUALLY WANT YOUR SHORT WRINKLY C**KS.
I just don't understand. How the f**k can there actually be men out there who just think, "Sex? NAH. It can wait." I mean what the f**k people. This is what girls do. GIRLS. Not men. Men want sex. Always. Girls don't want sex. Never. These are the rules. Follow them.
No more threads like this unless it's actually a MAN complaining about his girl withholding sex, as it should be.
Jesus Christ.

Bitches love sex.
Even more than me.


Well then, these extra horny girls should come and find me, or at least tell me they want my c**k when I offer. I would gladly do that for them, but NOOOOOO they want to use their minds to determine whether or not to f**k. Still baffles me how any living creature can do that. I mean, you see two birds or dogs or something, and they just see each other and F**K.
But humans, oh no, we have to judge interpersonal communication skills, clothing, interests, confidence, etc. Aka, how well we can trick people into liking us.
This cool story brought to you by bro.

You are probably all nasty and greasy.
Ew.


Well then, these extra horny girls should come and find me, or at least tell me they want my c**k when I offer. I would gladly do that for them, but NOOOOOO they want to use their minds to determine whether or not to f**k. Still baffles me how any living creature can do that. I mean, you see two birds or dogs or something, and they just see each other and F**K.
But humans, oh no, we have to judge interpersonal communication skills, clothing, interests, confidence, etc. Aka, how well we can trick people into liking us.
This cool story brought to you by bro.

you're probably just fat and antisocial
i turn girls down p regularly


Bitches love sex.
Even more than me.

I promise you. Coming from someone who faps a good 5-10 times a day. No girl wants to f**k more than I do.


I promise you. Coming from someone who faps a good 5-10 times a day. No girl wants to f**k more than I do.

I promise you. Coming from someone who actually has had experience with women. They do


You are probably all nasty and greasy.
Ew.

Not fat or ugly at all, girls are super interested when they first meet me. But then they talk to me and realize how socially awkward, cynical, and weird I am. I never just blatantly come out and say I would like to f**k them, so nothing ever happens.


I promise you. Coming from someone who actually has had experience with women. They do

He's right.


Not fat or ugly at all, girls are super interested when they first meet me. But then they talk to me and realize how socially awkward, cynical, and weird I am. I never just blatantly come out and say I would like to f**k them, so nothing ever happens.

>socially awkward, cynical, and weird I am
So nasty and greasy on the inside.
Close enough.


Not fat or ugly at all, girls are super interested when they first meet me. But then they talk to me and realize how socially awkward, cynical, and weird I am. I never just blatantly come out and say I would like to f**k them, so nothing ever happens.

just be real and stop being nervous


I promise you. Coming from someone who actually has had experience with women. They do

I've had experience with women, most of them batsh*t insane, and most of them just have the sex drive of a tree stump. It's not like I have a small penis or don't know how to f**k or anything, it's just the way I approach makes them not want to f**k. I don't want sex to come naturally in the "spur of the moment". When I want to f**k, I just want to f**k. In the middle of a movie? "Bitch get naked, I want to f**k now.' That kind of sh*t.
I mean, sure mystery and excitement is all good and everything when it's the first few times we're f**king, but after a while, I just want to f**k on demand. That sounds bad, but it isn't very different than most of these sh*tty threads girls make about their men not wanting to have sex.

I bet you're an engrish major OP

Okay advice...I'm a bit drunk right now...and I figured I might as well ask, its not like you punks know who I am anyways.
So I've known this guy since we were in Junior High, and to be honest, we've never really dated officially or anything. He's sort of puts on this whole cold emotionless act all the time, Im not to sure if he's for real or just trying to be cool, but overall, he's just very quiet and morbid.
Since we were in highschool, we've been having sex as "Friends" I guess, and to be honest, most of the damn time, he doesn't seem to into it.
Now we're both in the same college, and we still hang from time to time, and sometimes it ends up in sex, and its all up to me to actually initiate it, and multiple times, he's turned me down actually.
We have this weird kink going on, where I basically force him to have sex with me, and he puts up SOME resistance, and sometimes he'll actually fight me off and leave. I mean just last week, I literally drugged his dinner when he came over to do study, and we had this light bondage play.
To be honest, Im not to sure what he's feeling, but I think I really want to have a relationship with him, but he doesn't seem to care about me that way, even though the sex (to me) is kinky as all hell. But for some reason I dont think he wants a relationship at all.
What do you guys think? Do you think he might honestly be some emotionless rat bastard or is he just totally into this thing we do. Like should I ask him that we go out on a date or something? cause we've just been doing it alot more than actually talking, and its me doing most of the work.
TL:DR=Friends with Benefit, I want to take it further, not sure if Guy is totally into it. How should I approach it?
And yes, I AM girl.
and before you guys start saying that he's totally into the kinky stuff, You guys have no idea how he acts, I swear to god he's a anon sometimes

LOL OP you are a f**king fa**ot why dont you ask him about it?
NO HUUR I MUST ASK AT web WHERE ALL FA**OTS ARE THEY WILL KNOW THE AWNSER TO MY PROBLEM DUUUUR
Like I said you are not stupid or some sh*t, ask your guy why is he being like that


>socially awkward, cynical, and weird I am
So nasty and greasy on the inside.
Close enough.

i mean, I'm a nice person, and extremely outgoing. I have standards. It just so happens I have a pessimistic outlook, not so much on my own life, but on all of existence. I have obscure interests, and grew up an only child with a few close friends, so I'm not the greatest socially. Seems like most girls don't have the time to find out who I am, and I don't have the time to learn to project myself out to people.


i mean, I'm a nice person, and extremely outgoing. I have standards. It just so happens I have a pessimistic outlook, not so much on my own life, but on all of existence. I have obscure interests, and grew up an only child with a few close friends, so I'm not the greatest socially. Seems like most girls don't have the time to find out who I am, and I don't have the time to learn to project myself out to people.

if you don't like yourself no one else will


if you don't like yourself no one else will

I know. I've been struggling with that for a while. I have terrible anxiety, to the point that I'd rather just be alone a lot of the time. Sometimes I try alcohol to help, but it usually makes it worse.
Thinking about seeing a doctor about it, but I don't want some prescription drug turning me into more of a zombie than I already am.
Any ideas?
Also, I feel no remorse for somewhat hijacking OP's sh*tty thread.


i mean, I'm a nice person, and extremely outgoing. I have standards. It just so happens I have a pessimistic outlook, not so much on my own life, but on all of existence. I have obscure interests, and grew up an only child with a few close friends, so I'm not the greatest socially. Seems like most girls don't have the time to find out who I am, and I don't have the time to learn to project myself out to people.

>and grew up an only child with a few close friends, so I'm not the greatest socially. Seems like most girls don't have the time to find out who I am, and I don't have the time to learn to project myself out to people.
> and I don't have the time to learn to project myself out to people.
>don't have the time
What the f**k What the f**k What the f**k What the f**k What the f**k What the f**k you don't have the time. You have all the time you want in the world, but you like being a fa**ot, admit it, and would rather whine about that on web then to improve yourself


I know. I've been struggling with that for a while. I have terrible anxiety, to the point that I'd rather just be alone a lot of the time. Sometimes I try alcohol to help, but it usually makes it worse.
Thinking about seeing a doctor about it, but I don't want some prescription drug turning me into more of a zombie than I already am.
Any ideas?
Also, I feel no remorse for somewhat hijacking OP's sh*tty thread.

you don't have to bother with drugs i kind of hate them but ya talk to a therapist


>and grew up an only child with a few close friends, so I'm not the greatest socially. Seems like most girls don't have the time to find out who I am, and I don't have the time to learn to project myself out to people.
> and I don't have the time to learn to project myself out to people.
>don't have the time
What the f**k What the f**k What the f**k What the f**k What the f**k What the f**k you don't have the time. You have all the time you want in the world, but you like being a fa**ot, admit it, and would rather whine about that on web then to improve yourself

>improve myself
I work out, both in my spare time and doing my job, am in college working towards a future career, and have a few really good friends. The only thing I'm really missing is social skills. I have trouble reading people's emotions and expressing my own. All those things I'm supposed to pick up, for instance all the body language that I'm supposed to be able to imitate and use in casual encounters with other people, eye contact, smiling, all that bullsh*t. I never learned. It just looks forced when I do it. How did you learn all that sh*t?


>improve myself
I work out, both in my spare time and doing my job, am in college working towards a future career, and have a few really good friends. The only thing I'm really missing is social skills. I have trouble reading people's emotions and expressing my own. All those things I'm supposed to pick up, for instance all the body language that I'm supposed to be able to imitate and use in casual encounters with other people, eye contact, smiling, all that bullsh*t. I never learned. It just looks forced when I do it. How did you learn all that sh*t?

just interact with people a lot and you will automatically get it
it just takes time

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