Katherine: sooo i have a date with my not-a-boyfriend tomorrow, but there may be some tale-tell evidence of my saturday activities.... now i'm a bit nervous
me: oh Lite-Brite...looks like it could get a little tangled
Katherine: yeah, i didn't think things through
and wasn't really expecting a lasting welt
me: geez...how might this guy find out?
Katherine: the hand shaped bruise on my ass would be a clue...
me: well gee...that would mean he would have to have access to said ass, right?
unless that's a foregone conclusion
Katherine: sort of foregone... see, we've had sex before, (once), and it wasn't very good. so i'm gonna give it another shot with this guy
then, if it's stil bad, we have to have the "talk"
me: somehow, I don't anticipate a resolution that is good for all parties
Katherine: see, not-a-boyfriend likes me way more than i like him, and while i see this as fun, casual dating, i think he wants to be my real boyfriend. problem is, he's not really bf material
so, basically, i'm a slutty bitch :-/
me: well...i guess he'll just have to figure out how to read the writing on the wall...if such messages exist
Worst part is, she's not even very attractive. At all. And the not-good-at-sex guy, from other emails, seems sort of anonymous+5 years style, whereas the other one is older and richer.
So what's the problem here, then? Because I'm not seeing one.
>implying someone who straightfacedly says sh*t like "you do present a compelling argument" would ever be that lucky
Obviously they weren't compatible partners. Kudos to Katherine for realizing this and breaking off the relationship.
So what's the problem here, then? Because I'm not seeing one.
She is dating two men at the same time. Has been for the past two months or so. Without mentioning this to either of them. Both of the men consider their relationship to be serious. She has a date with one the day after sexing the other.
lol id like to get into my old teachers private email lol
That's why you don't date chicks, other than casually. Both of these guys should have atleast 1 other chick on the go.
Seriously, chicks are huge sluuuuuuuuuuuuts.
That's why you don't date chicks, other than casually. Both of these guys should have atleast 1 other chick on the go.
Seriously, chicks are huge sluuuuuuuuuuuuts.
You either gotta trap em when they're young, like 16, or you get to deal with the worn out "okay I f**ked 10000 guys I'm ready to settle down now I hope you like taking care of kids that aren't yours lol" 30 somethings.
She is dating two men at the same time. Has been for the past two months or so. Without mentioning this to either of them. Both of the men consider their relationship to be serious. She has a date with one the day after sexing the other.
What's your point?
You should have multiple guys or girls going at a time.
If you're not you're doing it f**king wrong.
Learn to socialize.
You either gotta trap em when they're young, like 16, or you get to deal with the worn out "okay I f**ked 10000 guys I'm ready to settle down now I hope you like taking care of kids that aren't yours lol" 30 somethings.
Yeah, Jesus. I dumped my last girlfriend cause she f**ked a ton of dudes. Last time I ever get into a relationship.
I hate the whole "lololol nothing wrong with sleeping around, i'm still gonna hide it from you, because i'm ashamed of being a wh**re, teehhee" bullsh*t.
She is dating two men at the same time. Has been for the past two months or so. Without mentioning this to either of them. Both of the men consider their relationship to be serious. She has a date with one the day after sexing the other.
A lot of people consider this normal nowadays, so it would be naive to expect to be in some sort of exclusive arrangement very early on when dating. Entering a relationship should in my opinion be done explicitly and ideally the limits it sets for activity with other potential partners should be mentioned and agreed upon in the same context.
She is dating two men at the same time. Has been for the past two months or so. Without mentioning this to either of them. Both of the men consider their relationship to be serious. She has a date with one the day after sexing the other.
... Point being?
Don't be such an immature fa**ot .Learn to share, learn to let people have privacy, learn to be able to handle stuff. If they wanted to know, they'd ask. If they don't, if they just assume she'll tell the because of some norms or mores they just assume she has (I am presuing they're assuming it, because they didn't realize she didn't) then they're retards for not watching their backs. It ain't her f**king job to babysit, sh*t.
A lot of people consider this normal nowadays, so it would be naive to expect to be in some sort of exclusive arrangement very early on when dating. Entering a relationship should in my opinion be done explicitly and ideally the limits it sets for activity with other potential partners should be mentioned and agreed upon in the same context.
IMO, somewhere between the First and Second date with a guy, a woman should stop f**king whoever she is f**king on the side, just out of courtesy. She doesn't have to cut off ties until she's sure she likes the new guy, but let's be honest, what guy would approach a woman who's already got some casual f**kbuddy on the side?
... Point being?
Don't be such an immature fa**ot .Learn to share, learn to let people have privacy, learn to be able to handle stuff. If they wanted to know, they'd ask. If they don't, if they just assume she'll tell the because of some norms or mores they just assume she has (I am presuing they're assuming it, because they didn't realize she didn't) then they're retards for not watching their backs. It ain't her f**king job to babysit, sh*t.
It's a sad state we are in, where people have to watch their backs with people they're interested in getting into a relationship with. Seriously, if you can't trust em, don't date em.
A lot of people consider this normal nowadays, so it would be naive to expect to be in some sort of exclusive arrangement very early on when dating. Entering a relationship should in my opinion be done explicitly and ideally the limits it sets for activity with other potential partners should be mentioned and agreed upon in the same context.
hear hear. Too many unfree douches up in heeereee. If someone lies to you, they're a dick, but simultaneously, I think you're probably a weakling if you can't see someone's lied to you.
IMO, somewhere between the First and Second date with a guy, a woman should stop f**king whoever she is f**king on the side, just out of courtesy. She doesn't have to cut off ties until she's sure she likes the new guy, but let's be honest, what guy would approach a woman who's already got some casual f**kbuddy on the side?
ME, I WOULD
you useless possessive sh*tfaces.
ME, I WOULD
you useless possessive sh*tfaces.
Okay let me rephrase that for you.
If you were looking for a potential long term relationship, would you rather have a woman who f**ks whoever, or one who does not?
IMO, somewhere between the First and Second date with a guy, a woman should stop f**king whoever she is f**king on the side, just out of courtesy. She doesn't have to cut off ties until she's sure she likes the new guy, but let's be honest, what guy would approach a woman who's already got some casual f**kbuddy on the side?
What if shes (or he for that matter) dating several guys equally seriously, possibly intending to pick one to become exclusive with? What if that dating involves sex?
ME, I WOULD
you useless possessive sh*tfaces.
lol polyamoryf** detected.
hear hear. Too many unfree douches up in heeereee. If someone lies to you, they're a dick, but simultaneously, I think you're probably a weakling if you can't see someone's lied to you.
Oh please. It's ridiculously easy to lie about someone. If she hadn't gotten a bruise on her ass, how would the guy even know?
What if shes (or he for that matter) dating several guys equally seriously, possibly intending to pick one to become exclusive with? What if that dating involves sex?
>dating several guys at once
That's a red flag. Screams of insecurity.
>f**king multiple guys while dating them all with a straight face
Defcon 3 trolling.
Okay let me rephrase that for you.
If you were looking for a potential long term relationship, would you rather have a woman who f**ks whoever, or one who does not?
Dude where was it implied that the other partners don't go through the same selection process as you would?
If someone f**ks several people it still doesnt mean they have no standards, or that they f**k strangers.
Okay let me rephrase that for you.
If you were looking for a potential long term relationship, would you rather have a woman who f**ks whoever, or one who does not?
Who the f**k starts off, just STARTS looking for a long term relationship? That's like saying I want a car that I've driven for twenty years. Those don't exist until you go through them. The relationship grows from a beginning, you f**king twats, lrn 2 relationships. If it continues into a long term one, is not guaranteed up front.
It's a sad state we are in, where people have to watch their backs with people they're interested in getting into a relationship with. Seriously, if you can't trust em, don't date em.
You're putting the blame for having a sensitivity or weakness on someone else? Tsk tsk. They have to watch their backs because they've chosen to be fragile and unable to cope with sharing. So, they must keep themselves away from that, and go for the right thing for them. Seriously, it's not anyone else's responsibility to take care of you. If they do, it's a gift. If they don't well that's a-okay.
Dude where was it implied that the other partners don't go through the same selection process as you would?
If someone f**ks several people it still doesnt mean they have no standards, or that they f**k strangers.
>if someone f**ks several people it doesn't mean they don't have standards
It does, actually. It means they don't have any standards regarding fidelity.
lol polyamoryf** detected.
Guuuuiiiilty. <3 <3 Multiple hot bitches safely f**ked and loved for the win.
>if someone f**ks several people it doesn't mean they don't have standards
It does, actually. It means they don't have any standards regarding fidelity.
>oh you
7/10
Who the f**k starts off, just STARTS looking for a long term relationship? That's like saying I want a car that I've driven for twenty years. Those don't exist until you go through them. The relationship grows from a beginning, you f**king twats, lrn 2 relationships. If it continues into a long term one, is not guaranteed up front.
You're putting the blame for having a sensitivity or weakness on someone else? Tsk tsk. They have to watch their backs because they've chosen to be fragile and unable to cope with sharing. So, they must keep themselves away from that, and go for the right thing for them. Seriously, it's not anyone else's responsibility to take care of you. If they do, it's a gift. If they don't well that's a-okay.
>Who just STARTS looking for a long term relationship?
I'm a fan of not having relationships last less than a few months.
I'm not really big on wasting hundreds of dollars to get to second base with some bitch with a horrid personality. So I pick my women carefully.
>dating several guys at once
That's a red flag. Screams of insecurity.
>f**king multiple guys while dating them all with a straight face
Defcon 3 trolling.
I don't think it screams of insecurity. Maybe she posted an online dating ad? It's impossible to pick out of that many guys without meeting some of them, and one meeting isn't necessarily conclusive, and any deeper interest obviously takes longer to develop. I think it's rather a sign of wanting to find an ideal partner, possibly to settle down with. (Yes a stupid way of attempting that, but also rational in a way, and people are stupid, what can I say)
Guuuuiiiilty. <3 <3 Multiple hot bitches safely f**ked and loved for the win.
I respect your lifestyle, but we are very different people and I will never be able to see things from your perspective. This may cause some friction so don't take anything too personally.
I respect your lifestyle, but we are very different people and I will never be able to see things from your perspective. This may cause some friction so don't take anything too personally.
Gritting his teeth to hold back the beta male anger.
Guuuuiiiilty. <3 <3 Multiple hot bitches safely f**ked and loved for the win.
Beta male who will take anything he can get.
>if someone f**ks several people it doesn't mean they don't have standards
It does, actually. It means they don't have any standards regarding fidelity.
Who the f**k are you supposed to be faithful to, if youre not in a relationship?
I don't think it screams of insecurity. Maybe she posted an online dating ad? It's impossible to pick out of that many guys without meeting some of them, and one meeting isn't necessarily conclusive, and any deeper interest obviously takes longer to develop. I think it's rather a sign of wanting to find an ideal partner, possibly to settle down with. (Yes a stupid way of attempting that, but also rational in a way, and people are stupid, what can I say)
>It's impossible to pick out of that many guys without meeting some of them
Fair enough. I'm not asking her to pick out prince charming by the third date.
The only things I ask would be
1: She lets all the guys know she's dating multiple men.
and
2:She holds off on f**king anyone until she pares the choices down to 1 or 2.
>It's impossible to pick out of that many guys without meeting some of them
Fair enough. I'm not asking her to pick out prince charming by the third date.
The only things I ask would be
1: She lets all the guys know she's dating multiple men.
and
2:She holds off on f**king anyone until she pares the choices down to 1 or 2.
It's just sex. Your virginity is showing.
MEWTBLOCK
Bitches and wh**res, anonymous.
Trawling through random people's emails, mostly looking for interesting tidbits. Come across this, between two of my teachers last year:
Katherine: sooo i have a date with my not-a-boyfriend tomorrow, but there may be some tale-tell evidence of my saturday activities.... now i'm a bit nervous
me: oh Lite-Brite...looks like it could get a little tangled
Katherine: yeah, i didn't think things through
and wasn't really expecting a lasting welt
me: geez...how might this guy find out?
Katherine: the hand shaped bruise on my ass would be a clue...
me: well gee...that would mean he would have to have access to said ass, right?
unless that's a foregone conclusion
Katherine: sort of foregone... see, we've had sex before, (once), and it wasn't very good. so i'm gonna give it another shot with this guy
then, if it's stil bad, we have to have the "talk"
me: somehow, I don't anticipate a resolution that is good for all parties
Katherine: see, not-a-boyfriend likes me way more than i like him, and while i see this as fun, casual dating, i think he wants to be my real boyfriend. problem is, he's not really bf material
so, basically, i'm a slutty bitch :-/
me: well...i guess he'll just have to figure out how to read the writing on the wall...if such messages exist
Worst part is, she's not even very attractive. At all. And the not-good-at-sex guy, from other emails, seems sort of anonymous+5 years style, whereas the other one is older and richer.
my face when i red all the text GLOARG
Who the f**k starts off, just STARTS looking for a long term relationship? That's like saying I want a car that I've driven for twenty years. Those don't exist until you go through them. The relationship grows from a beginning, you f**king twats, lrn 2 relationships. If it continues into a long term one, is not guaranteed up front.
You're putting the blame for having a sensitivity or weakness on someone else? Tsk tsk. They have to watch their backs because they've chosen to be fragile and unable to cope with sharing. So, they must keep themselves away from that, and go for the right thing for them. Seriously, it's not anyone else's responsibility to take care of you. If they do, it's a gift. If they don't well that's a-okay.
>Who the f**k starts off, just STARTS looking for a long term relationship?
people that know what they want in life and are tired of f**king around with people who don't, or don't want the same things. at this point of my life, i'm looking for someone who i'm not just settling for as a f**k buddy for the time being. if that's all you want, that's fine, but i don't want to just hope i accidently into a lifelong relationship, so it's time to actively seek it out.
Who the f**k are you supposed to be faithful to, if youre not in a relationship?
Your self worth?
Sh*tty lock and master key etc.
I respect your lifestyle, but we are very different people and I will never be able to see things from your perspective. This may cause some friction so don't take anything too personally.
I respect your lifestyle, in theory, but a lot of people I know who practice monogamy are oppressing either themselves or their partners. Some of the monogamous partnerships I've been near are beautiful things, but most are just repression/oppression cycles. I happen to prefer multiple partners for this part of my life.
>Who just STARTS looking for a long term relationship?
I'm a fan of not having relationships last less than a few months.
I'm not really big on wasting hundreds of dollars to get to second base with some bitch with a horrid personality. So I pick my women carefully.
Hundreds of dollars for second base? I started banging my beautiful lover after a walk in the park and some relaxing talk, and she is amazing and full of depth, and really c**kthirsty.
Who the f**k starts off, just STARTS looking for a long term relationship? That's like saying I want a car that I've driven for twenty years. Those don't exist until you go through them. The relationship grows from a beginning, you f**king twats, lrn 2 relationships. If it continues into a long term one, is not guaranteed up front.
You're putting the blame for having a sensitivity or weakness on someone else? Tsk tsk. They have to watch their backs because they've chosen to be fragile and unable to cope with sharing. So, they must keep themselves away from that, and go for the right thing for them. Seriously, it's not anyone else's responsibility to take care of you. If they do, it's a gift. If they don't well that's a-okay.
We both know monogamy, not polyamory is the standard in western society. Unless you're posting from a Yurt on the other side of the planet...
With that said, if she didn't think she was doing anything wrong, she wouldn't be worried about the other guy finding out. This fear and reluctance to admit to what she is doing is an admission of guilt on her part, regardless of how you or I feel about it. If she wasn't doing anything wrong, she would have nothing to be ashamed of.
You naturally assume that this is weakness, that is to say, not being alright with the person you are seeing/sleeping with (but not yet officially dating) is some sort of failing, some sort of lack of courage. It's merely the value system pretty much everyone in western society is brought up with, as well as our biology. We are not naturally wired to be OK with our partner having multiple partners other than ourselves, for a variety of reasons.
While one can reject this, we must ask ourselves, what is the purpose of overcoming our natural drives and urges, and the rejection of one of the pillars of our current society. Rejection for the sake of rejection is no better than blindly accepting something for the sake of accepting something.
I'll address the rest in my next post...
Gritting his teeth to hold back the beta male anger.
Beta male who will take anything he can get.
Nah, the alpha will take anything he can get, too. The beta, he just gets the alpha's leftovers. Alpha picks the ones in heat... fit or not, it's better for them to carry his seeds than someone else's. beta, on the other hand, needs to be pickier, or maybe just uses that as an excuse for frequent fear of rejection because deep down he knows he doesn't have a chance.
I respect your lifestyle, in theory, but a lot of people I know who practice monogamy are oppressing either themselves or their partners. Some of the monogamous partnerships I've been near are beautiful things, but most are just repression/oppression cycles. I happen to prefer multiple partners for this part of my life.
Hundreds of dollars for second base? I started banging my beautiful lover after a walk in the park and some relaxing talk, and she is amazing and full of depth, and really c**kthirsty.
>Hundreds of dollars for second base? I started banging my dumb, easy, simply manipulated bitch after a walk in the park and some bullsh*tting, and she is shallow and as sharp as the side of a soccer ball, and really slutty.
We both know monogamy, not polyamory is the standard in western society. Unless you're posting from a Yurt on the other side of the planet...
With that said, if she didn't think she was doing anything wrong, she wouldn't be worried about the other guy finding out. This fear and reluctance to admit to what she is doing is an admission of guilt on her part, regardless of how you or I feel about it. If she wasn't doing anything wrong, she would have nothing to be ashamed of.
You naturally assume that this is weakness, that is to say, not being alright with the person you are seeing/sleeping with (but not yet officially dating) is some sort of failing, some sort of lack of courage. It's merely the value system pretty much everyone in western society is brought up with, as well as our biology. We are not naturally wired to be OK with our partner having multiple partners other than ourselves, for a variety of reasons.
While one can reject this, we must ask ourselves, what is the purpose of overcoming our natural drives and urges, and the rejection of one of the pillars of our current society. Rejection for the sake of rejection is no better than blindly accepting something for the sake of accepting something.
I'll address the rest in my next post...
Freud said that civilization is based on repressing sexual urges. Think about it ... if you just f**ked everybody you wanted to, you'd do nothing but f**king all day.
Nah, the alpha will take anything he can get, too. The beta, he just gets the alpha's leftovers. Alpha picks the ones in heat... fit or not, it's better for them to carry his seeds than someone else's. beta, on the other hand, needs to be pickier, or maybe just uses that as an excuse for frequent fear of rejection because deep down he knows he doesn't have a chance.
Alpha can have anyone. It is a simple task for an alpha to find a partner.
Alphas don't accept even half the girls who express interest and make an advance. They have far too much social status to deal with all the rabble that wants to knock boots with a superhero.
Freud said that civilization is based on repressing sexual urges. Think about it ... if you just f**ked everybody you wanted to, you'd do nothing but f**king all day.
>you'd be doing nothing but masturbating all day, while the top 5% of attractive men were f**king all the attractive women
ftfy
We both know monogamy, not polyamory is the standard in western society. Unless you're posting from a Yurt on the other side of the planet...
With that said, if she didn't think she was doing anything wrong, she wouldn't be worried about the other guy finding out. This fear and reluctance to admit to what she is doing is an admission of guilt on her part, regardless of how you or I feel about it. If she wasn't doing anything wrong, she would have nothing to be ashamed of.
You naturally assume that this is weakness, that is to say, not being alright with the person you are seeing/sleeping with (but not yet officially dating) is some sort of failing, some sort of lack of courage. It's merely the value system pretty much everyone in western society is brought up with, as well as our biology. We are not naturally wired to be OK with our partner having multiple partners other than ourselves, for a variety of reasons.
While one can reject this, we must ask ourselves, what is the purpose of overcoming our natural drives and urges, and the rejection of one of the pillars of our current society. Rejection for the sake of rejection is no better than blindly accepting something for the sake of accepting something.
I'll address the rest in my next post...
There is also the idea that somehow, this is demanding she take care of him. I'd like to point out, that when you begin a romantic relationship with someone, you do rely on them, and they on you. If both parties are fiercely independent, then nothing greater than f**king takes place, and this is not the issue at hand.
She knows what she will do is hurtful. There's a lack of respect, and a lack of honesty. She isn't avoiding taking caring of him, she is actively participating in actions that will cause Mr.Can't-F**k-Good grief and harm. She knows this, as I've explained earlier.
Now, she's absolutely free to do so, but when one must necessarily approach romantic relationships with the idea in mind that the other party cannot be trusted and a suspicious mindset, it is impossible to form this sort of relationship.
>It's impossible to pick out of that many guys without meeting some of them
Fair enough. I'm not asking her to pick out prince charming by the third date.
The only things I ask would be
1: She lets all the guys know she's dating multiple men.
and
2:She holds off on f**king anyone until she pares the choices down to 1 or 2.
On the other hand, since she's by default not obliged to share details of her personal life with any of the guys shes dating until things start getting more serious, she probably won't. You know that's not an attractive thing to say, ("oh hai I liek u and all but I date other gais" actually it's a bitchy thing to say, like she was flaunting her desirability and attempting to make you jealous) and if the general consensus is that it's not necessarily exclusive until she promises it's exclusive then its not even deceiving or immoral.
>Who the f**k starts off, just STARTS looking for a long term relationship?
people that know what they want in life and are tired of f**king around with people who don't, or don't want the same things. at this point of my life, i'm looking for someone who i'm not just settling for as a f**k buddy for the time being. if that's all you want, that's fine, but i don't want to just hope i accidently into a lifelong relationship, so it's time to actively seek it out.
I'd also like to point out, that in fact, many people do. Single mothers, divorce's of both genders, even people who are "over the hill" and no longer have the option of merely enjoying life without risking spending the rest of their lives alone.
On the other hand, since she's by default not obliged to share details of her personal life with any of the guys shes dating until things start getting more serious, she probably won't. You know that's not an attractive thing to say, ("oh hai I liek u and all but I date other gais" actually it's a bitchy thing to say, like she was flaunting her desirability and attempting to make you jealous) and if the general consensus is that it's not necessarily exclusive until she promises it's exclusive then its not even deceiving or immoral.
Okay, so she doesn't HAVE to tell you.
If I found out that while I was buying her dinner and trying to romance her, that she was getting c**kmeat sandwiches from Jay and Brad and Jacob, I'd stop dating her.
Freud said that civilization is based on repressing sexual urges. Think about it ... if you just f**ked everybody you wanted to, you'd do nothing but f**king all day.
I agree with the idea that in order to become more than animal, we must repress our most base instincts. Aristotle thought that our reason, and use of reason was the thing that would separate us from animal. Someone who lives as a beast of the field is incapable of this. Obviously, balance is necessary, but I think what we're talking about here is someone having dozens of partners throughout their lifetime, rather than spending every waking moment f**king.
Also, cmon. No one takes Freud's ideas seriously. They're unfalsifiable.
We both know monogamy, not polyamory is the standard in western society. Unless you're posting from a Yurt on the other side of the planet...
With that said, if she didn't think she was doing anything wrong, she wouldn't be worried about the other guy finding out. This fear and reluctance to admit to what she is doing is an admission of guilt on her part, regardless of how you or I feel about it. If she wasn't doing anything wrong, she would have nothing to be ashamed of.
You naturally assume that this is weakness, that is to say, not being alright with the person you are seeing/sleeping with (but not yet officially dating) is some sort of failing, some sort of lack of courage. It's merely the value system pretty much everyone in western society is brought up with, as well as our biology. We are not naturally wired to be OK with our partner having multiple partners other than ourselves, for a variety of reasons.
While one can reject this, we must ask ourselves, what is the purpose of overcoming our natural drives and urges, and the rejection of one of the pillars of our current society. Rejection for the sake of rejection is no better than blindly accepting something for the sake of accepting something.
I'll address the rest in my next post...
I prefer to be above standards rather than limit myself. I wouldn't associate with females who didn't do the same, so I find nothing reprehensible about her actions. She can do what she wants, and if the males wanted to know the information, they should ask for it. She can provide or withhold the information at her leisure.
>Hundreds of dollars for second base? I started banging my dumb, easy, simply manipulated bitch after a walk in the park and some bullsh*tting, and she is shallow and as sharp as the side of a soccer ball, and really slutty.
raaaaaging at the attractive young activist who works hard, f**ks a beautiful, fit, intelligent and introspective young woman who teaches yoga and loves to go down on him, and isn't materialistic enough to need 100 bucks to go down on him. Doot doot, who's shallow when you see real love in a person?
Gritting his teeth to hold back the beta male anger.
Beta male who will take anything he can get.
Did you read a book or something? Please grow up. I've got to get to bed with this beautiful young lady. *Who, I will note, hung out with me and another girl that I invited over here (to her house) and after a wonderful conversation between the three of us, and baby turtle fun, I then went on a long quality time adventure with this second lady, who dropped me off here, with my lover*
Suck it, lonely! Or, better yet
if there's something out there you want to do,
somewhere you need to be
someplace you have to go.
Get out and do that.
Be there
Go.
Okay, so she doesn't HAVE to tell you.
If I found out that while I was buying her dinner and trying to romance her, that she was getting c**kmeat sandwiches from Jay and Brad and Jacob, I'd stop dating her.
Also, you could ask.
I prefer to be above standards rather than limit myself. I wouldn't associate with females who didn't do the same, so I find nothing reprehensible about her actions. She can do what she wants, and if the males wanted to know the information, they should ask for it. She can provide or withhold the information at her leisure.
raaaaaging at the attractive young activist who works hard, f**ks a beautiful, fit, intelligent and introspective young woman who teaches yoga and loves to go down on him, and isn't materialistic enough to need 100 bucks to go down on him. Doot doot, who's shallow when you see real love in a person?
Did you read a book or something? Please grow up. I've got to get to bed with this beautiful young lady. *Who, I will note, hung out with me and another girl that I invited over here (to her house) and after a wonderful conversation between the three of us, and baby turtle fun, I then went on a long quality time adventure with this second lady, who dropped me off here, with my lover*
Suck it, lonely! Or, better yet
if there's something out there you want to do,
somewhere you need to be
someplace you have to go.
Get out and do that.
Be there
Go.
While I love your cute comment about rising above standards, you Ubermensch you, the problem is, she is being deceptive. Even if you truly believe that a lie of omission in regards to something that would obviously hurt the other party should they know is fine, you can tell she's apprehensive about it. She knows what she's doing is wrong, because she feels guilt. Like I said, regardless of what you or I think, she feels she is doing something wrong. She isn't rising above standards at all, she's trying to make sure no one knows she doesn't want to adhere to them.
While I love your cute comment about rising above standards, you Ubermensch you, the problem is, she is being deceptive. Even if you truly believe that a lie of omission in regards to something that would obviously hurt the other party should they know is fine, you can tell she's apprehensive about it. She knows what she's doing is wrong, because she feels guilt. Like I said, regardless of what you or I think, she feels she is doing something wrong. She isn't rising above standards at all, she's trying to make sure no one knows she doesn't want to adhere to them.
You gonna bring her to justice, Tex?
Also, you could ask.
I don't think anyone here is apposed to the idea of asking. All my friends involved in relationships had the "Sooo, you're number..." talk with their SO. The other party must be able to take responsibility for their own well being, but with that said, going into a relationship with the mentality that the other party is inherently untrustworthy is poisoning the well, so to speak.
You gonna bring her to justice, Tex?
Absolutely not. I'm not an arbiter of justice, and for all I care, she can be doing gangbang porn on the side without telling anyone. It's simply ludicrous to think her behaviour is acceptable when she herself feels otherwise.
I prefer to be above standards rather than limit myself. I wouldn't associate with females who didn't do the same, so I find nothing reprehensible about her actions. She can do what she wants, and if the males wanted to know the information, they should ask for it. She can provide or withhold the information at her leisure.
raaaaaging at the attractive young activist who works hard, f**ks a beautiful, fit, intelligent and introspective young woman who teaches yoga and loves to go down on him, and isn't materialistic enough to need 100 bucks to go down on him. Doot doot, who's shallow when you see real love in a person?
Did you read a book or something? Please grow up. I've got to get to bed with this beautiful young lady. *Who, I will note, hung out with me and another girl that I invited over here (to her house) and after a wonderful conversation between the three of us, and baby turtle fun, I then went on a long quality time adventure with this second lady, who dropped me off here, with my lover*
Suck it, lonely! Or, better yet
if there's something out there you want to do,
somewhere you need to be
someplace you have to go.
Get out and do that.
Be there
Go.
The funniest part of your post is when you expose that you're desperate and stupid enough to be able to handle the company of not one but two women at the same time.
You must be a girl.
While I love your cute comment about rising above standards, you Ubermensch you, the problem is, she is being deceptive. Even if you truly believe that a lie of omission in regards to something that would obviously hurt the other party should they know is fine, you can tell she's apprehensive about it. She knows what she's doing is wrong, because she feels guilt. Like I said, regardless of what you or I think, she feels she is doing something wrong. She isn't rising above standards at all, she's trying to make sure no one knows she doesn't want to adhere to them.
How is she being deceptive? If anything, she seems nervous about this person's reaction after they find out. While she hasn't exactly run around spouting "I'm f**king other people!" why would this other person be hurt by that knowledge? Do they think that they're the only person in the world? Or that they and only they are entitled to her vagina? I mean seriously, what exactly is the problem here, because it is not her job to take care of his butthurts. If they had some sort of agreement and then she went back on it, that'd be sh*tty. If someone likes you, you still don't owe them sh*t beyond human courtesy and kindness. She's giving uggo a second try despite sh*tty sex, and you don't see that as a f**king gift?
The funniest part of your post is when you expose that you're desperate and stupid enough to be able to handle the company of not one but two women at the same time.
You must be a girl.
I may as well have a vagina and tits, for all the nurturing I do around here. I've got long hair, but I definitely have a c**k.
Goodnight anonymous, farming in the morning.
I'd also like to point out, that in fact, many people do. Single mothers, divorce's of both genders, even people who are "over the hill" and no longer have the option of merely enjoying life without risking spending the rest of their lives alone.
say, you wouldn't be trying to devalue the authenticity of my expressed sentiment by attempting to draw a correlation between mine and that of people who "no longer have the option of merely enjoying life" would you?
that would be a pathetic >implication. the fact is, while it's fine for people who "just want to enjoy life", i think you are confusing your idea of enjoying life to mean just having lots of sex with as many people as possible. i just want to enjoy life too, in fact, i literally want enjoy life, not just sex and fleeting sexual attachments to strangers. hence my growing boredom with sharing my life with people who's only qualification is sexual.
I don't think anyone here is apposed to the idea of asking. All my friends involved in relationships had the "Sooo, you're number..." talk with their SO. The other party must be able to take responsibility for their own well being, but with that said, going into a relationship with the mentality that the other party is inherently untrustworthy is poisoning the well, so to speak.
No, my attitude is not that the new partner is inherently untrustworthy.
In fact, it relies heavily on his/her moral integrity in that it presupposes that when (and only when) you've earned their devotion, you may expect total fidelity as you two have together defined it.
How is she being deceptive? If anything, she seems nervous about this person's reaction after they find out. While she hasn't exactly run around spouting "I'm f**king other people!" why would this other person be hurt by that knowledge? Do they think that they're the only person in the world? Or that they and only they are entitled to her vagina? I mean seriously, what exactly is the problem here, because it is not her job to take care of his butthurts. If they had some sort of agreement and then she went back on it, that'd be sh*tty. If someone likes you, you still don't owe them sh*t beyond human courtesy and kindness. She's giving uggo a second try despite sh*tty sex, and you don't see that as a f**king gift?
Alright.
If she wants to date him, then she is responsible for any butthurts she may cause him. He is not entitled to her vagina by any means, but the fact that she's worried about how he will react means she feels she has done something wrong. No one who feels they are morally virtuous feels a sense nervousness about their actions and choices. No one feel this, regardless of whether or not they are morally correct.
It really doesn't matter why he would be hurt by this knowledge. He will be hurt by this knowledge. If she knew he wouldn't be hurt, she would have no problem with him seeing the handprint on her ass. She knows this, because she knows he wants an exclusive relationship, while she does not, and in fact, wants to see other people.
I totally agree that if someone likes you, you owe them basic courtesy and kindness, and nothing more. Unfortunately, they are beyond that stage. In fact, they are already sleeping together, having been dating, and she is aware he wishes to have a romantic relationship with her. They have progressed beyond this point, and they are dating, albeit casually. As such, she now holds more moral responsibility than she did.
No, my attitude is not that the new partner is inherently untrustworthy.
In fact, it relies heavily on his/her moral integrity in that it presupposes that when (and only when) you've earned their devotion, you may expect total fidelity as you two have together defined it.
The idea that you have to earn devotion from someone, rather than it being freely given because they care for you is unhealthy, and bizarre. I may have to earn trust for some particularly touchy issues, but devotion should be created by mutual attraction, rather than earned by doing things for someone.
And yes, your attitude is that. One must watch their back when attempting to enter into a romantic relationship with someone. I must remain skeptical and detached until the relationship itself begins, at which point, I'm free to dive in headfirst. That's what you're saying.
say, you wouldn't be trying to devalue the authenticity of my expressed sentiment by attempting to draw a correlation between mine and that of people who "no longer have the option of merely enjoying life" would you?
that would be a pathetic >implication. the fact is, while it's fine for people who "just want to enjoy life", i think you are confusing your idea of enjoying life to mean just having lots of sex with as many people as possible. i just want to enjoy life too, in fact, i literally want enjoy life, not just sex and fleeting sexual attachments to strangers. hence my growing boredom with sharing my life with people who's only qualification is sexual.
Actually, no. I'm not trying to do anything of the sort. I realize that single mothers are often sh*t on here on web, but a lot of the time, they don't deserve it. Divorcees don't deserve it either. Neither do those people who are elderly.
I think I came off a lot harsher than I meant to, and I failed to express my thoughts. Having a child and being a mother forces you to mature. So does going through a marriage and a divorce, and so does simply living for years and years.
The idea that the only life worth living is filled with as many hookups as possible is laughable, and I'm really not trying to imply that.
The idea that you have to earn devotion from someone, rather than it being freely given because they care for you is unhealthy, and bizarre. I may have to earn trust for some particularly touchy issues, but devotion should be created by mutual attraction, rather than earned by doing things for someone.
And yes, your attitude is that. One must watch their back when attempting to enter into a romantic relationship with someone. I must remain skeptical and detached until the relationship itself begins, at which point, I'm free to dive in headfirst. That's what you're saying.
>The idea that you have to earn devotion from someone, rather than it being freely given because they care for you is unhealthy, and bizarre. I may have to earn trust for some particularly touchy issues, but devotion should be created by mutual attraction, rather than earned by doing things for someone.
Oh come on, you have to earn the caring, too, by hanging around and being attractive. I never said you should do tricks or buy them presents or anything. Relationships and warm feelings form out of time spent together, and that's an investment in itself.
>And yes, your attitude is that. One must watch their back when attempting to enter into a romantic relationship with someone. I must remain skeptical and detached until the relationship itself begins, at which point, I'm free to dive in headfirst. That's what you're saying.
Yes, that is what I'm saying!
>The idea that you have to earn devotion from someone, rather than it being freely given because they care for you is unhealthy, and bizarre. I may have to earn trust for some particularly touchy issues, but devotion should be created by mutual attraction, rather than earned by doing things for someone.
Oh come on, you have to earn the caring, too, by hanging around and being attractive. I never said you should do tricks or buy them presents or anything. Relationships and warm feelings form out of time spent together, and that's an investment in itself.
>And yes, your attitude is that. One must watch their back when attempting to enter into a romantic relationship with someone. I must remain skeptical and detached until the relationship itself begins, at which point, I'm free to dive in headfirst. That's what you're saying.
Yes, that is what I'm saying!
That's exactly what I'm saying about devotion. Seems we have different ways of saying it. When you said "earned" I took it to mean that one must earn it the same way one earns other things in life, through hard work. Spending time with someone you like shouldn't be that.
And if that's what you're saying, why are you disagreeing with me? I am saying you are saying you should be skeptical. You can't just go ahead and trust someone till you're in a relationship. You're saying the exact thing, so who's arguing about what here?
Listen, you will never be able to just start trusting someone. You won't be able to flick trust like a switch in your head. What you're suggesting is ridiculous. It's impossible not to trust someone as you grow closer together and near a relationship. While it is a reality that one must remain vigilant, he's not weak for doing so. It's natural, it's normal. What you are suggesting, that you shouldn't trust someone till you are officially dating, is both said, and simply not the way relationships work.
That's exactly what I'm saying about devotion. Seems we have different ways of saying it. When you said "earned" I took it to mean that one must earn it the same way one earns other things in life, through hard work. Spending time with someone you like shouldn't be that.
And if that's what you're saying, why are you disagreeing with me? I am saying you are saying you should be skeptical. You can't just go ahead and trust someone till you're in a relationship. You're saying the exact thing, so who's arguing about what here?
Listen, you will never be able to just start trusting someone. You won't be able to flick trust like a switch in your head. What you're suggesting is ridiculous. It's impossible not to trust someone as you grow closer together and near a relationship. While it is a reality that one must remain vigilant, he's not weak for doing so. It's natural, it's normal. What you are suggesting, that you shouldn't trust someone till you are officially dating, is both said, and simply not the way relationships work.
Lets go over this again, just one more time.
I never said DO NOT TRUST. I say DO TRUST.
With one important but: you can only trust someone to keep what they have promised. You cant assume things about their intentions and attitudes without discussing it first. That would be harmful and stupid.
Lets go over this again, just one more time.
I never said DO NOT TRUST. I say DO TRUST.
With one important but: you can only trust someone to keep what they have promised. You cant assume things about their intentions and attitudes without discussing it first. That would be harmful and stupid.
If you are 8409844, then you explicitly state that they should watch their backs. That means, you don't trust. If you're not, then I'm arguing with someone else, or hurdurf I'm confused about who I am responding to.
... Point being?
Don't be such an immature fa**ot .Learn to share, learn to let people have privacy, learn to be able to handle stuff. If they wanted to know, they'd ask. If they don't, if they just assume she'll tell the because of some norms or mores they just assume she has (I am presuing they're assuming it, because they didn't realize she didn't) then they're retards for not watching their backs. It ain't her f**king job to babysit, sh*t.
If you are 8409844, then you explicitly state that they should watch their backs. That means, you don't trust. If you're not , then I'm arguing with someone else, or hurdurf I'm confused about who I am responding to.
You always have to watch your back.
Even people who have nothing but your best interest at heart may f**k up. Grownups are responsible for their own wellbeing, especially so in a volatile situation such as the beginning of a relationship, where very powerful emotions and relatively unfamiliar people may be involved.
You always have to watch your back.
Even people who have nothing but your best interest at heart may f**k up. Grownups are responsible for their own wellbeing, especially so in a volatile situation such as the beginning of a relationship, where very powerful emotions and relatively unfamiliar people may be involved.
So you shouldn't trust then. When you said watch your back, it was in reference to her actions (f**king other dudes, the entire topic of this thread) rather than any of the myriad of things that can go wrong.
What you're saying is double think. You should trust someone, but you should also check on them in case you can't trust them.
I'm not saying you're not responsible for your own well being, but you can't start a relationship without some level of trust, that is built in the "just dating" phase.
So you shouldn't trust then. When you said watch your back, it was in reference to her actions (f**king other dudes, the entire topic of this thread) rather than any of the myriad of things that can go wrong.
What you're saying is double think. You should trust someone, but you should also check on them in case you can't trust them.
I'm not saying you're not responsible for your own well being, but you can't start a relationship without some level of trust, that is built in the "just dating" phase.
Let's say youre kneeling down, tending to a flowerbed next to the driveway leading up to your parents' garage. Your mom who loves you more than anyone and would give her own heart as a transplant for you if you needed it starts backing out of the garage. The car is approaching you. Do you not stand up and move because that's your mom and you feel you can trust her, and feel that checking on her is unnecessary?
This conversation is getting really boring, fruitless and repetitive so I'm quitting it now. bye
Let's say youre kneeling down, tending to a flowerbed next to the driveway leading up to your parents' garage. Your mom who loves you more than anyone and would give her own heart as a transplant for you if you needed it starts backing out of the garage. The car is approaching you. Do you not stand up and move because that's your mom and you feel you can trust her, and feel that checking on her is unnecessary?
This conversation is getting really boring, fruitless and repetitive so I'm quitting it now. bye
Goodbye.
What you are suggesting and the scenario you are describing are different. The girl is aware her actions will harm, the mother has no idea.
That's not what you mean by "watch your back". That's just survival instincts.
You know that's what you meant, now you're just being intellectually dishonest because you don't want to lose an argument on web (lol) and you saged because you didn't want me to reply.
And you probably read this, didn't you?
Goodbye.
What you are suggesting and the scenario you are describing are different. The girl is aware her actions will harm, the mother has no idea.
That's not what you mean by "watch your back". That's just survival instincts.
You know that's what you meant, now you're just being intellectually dishonest because you don't want to lose an argument on web (lol) and you saged because you didn't want me to reply.
And you probably read this, didn't you?
>The girl is aware her actions will harm
This is where our assumptions differ.
And no, I didn't want you to reply, yes, that is why I saged.
>The girl is aware her actions will harm
This is where our assumptions differ.
And no, I didn't want you to reply, yes, that is why I saged.
I knew you weren't really gone, and you couldn't help yourself from replying.
She knows because she isn't naturally forthcoming and she's worried about what will happen when he notices the bruise. Like I said, she feels angst over her choices.
I knew you weren't really gone, and you couldn't help yourself from replying.
She knows because she isn't naturally forthcoming and she's worried about what will happen when he notices the bruise. Like I said, she feels angst over her choices.
I was discussing in general, not this particular case.
I was discussing in general, not this particular case.
LOL
Yes, you were discussing in this particular case. In fact, you specifically reference the woman in question in your posts.
I'm actually done now. I'm going to sleep. You should think about what I've written. Maybe start a thread about it tomorrow.
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