The following is a list of questions on LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) rights, the first five of which have been recent issues in US politics (the fifth is federal law, the others are not). Next to each say "yes," in favor of the legislation, or "no," not in favor. A brief explanation under each is given for foreignf**s.
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
yes = domestic partners receive spousal benefits
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
yes = illegal to fire LGBT employees solely on the basis of their orientation
3) Pass civil union legislation
yes = civil unions with equivalent benefits to marriage legal in all states
4) Pass gay marriage
yes = gay marriage legal in all states
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
yes = harsher punishment for crimes of hatred
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
Age,
Gender,
Ethnicity,
Orientation,
Religious belief,
Whether you're located in a red or blue state, per the last presidential election, or what country you're from.
All answers will be compiled and analyzed, and salient results will be provided with supporting charts in this or a subsequent thread. Thanks for participating.
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
Yes
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
Yes
3) Pass civil union legislation
Yes
4) Pass gay marriage
Yes
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
Yes
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
No
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
No
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
Age: 19
Gender: F
Ethnicity: White
Orientation: Gay
Religious belief: Atheist
Whether you're located in a red or blue state, per the last presidential election, or what country you're from: The UK.
1) yes
2) yes
3) no
4) yes
5) yes
6) no
7) idk
26, female, white, straight, Christian, blue state
f**k fa**ots
>Rowboats love a good survey thread
I resent that.
Sagay.
1)yes
2) yes
3) yes
4) not completely in favour, but I don't have a big problem with it.
5) Hate crime legislation is wrong
6) no
7) don't really understand question
21, male, white, straight, catholic
yes for the first 5 questions. 6) no. 7) no.
19, m, white, straight, atheist, blue state
I vote don't change anything.
Gays have the same rights I do. If I want to marry a man, I can't either.
Rowboats love a good survey thread, and this one will deliver--
The following is a list of questions on LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) rights, the first five of which have been recent issues in US politics (the fifth is federal law, the others are not). Next to each say "yes," in favor of the legislation, or "no," not in favor. A brief explanation under each is given for foreignf**s.
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
yes = domestic partners receive spousal benefits
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
yes = illegal to fire LGBT employees solely on the basis of their orientation
3) Pass civil union legislation
yes = civil unions with equivalent benefits to marriage legal in all states
4) Pass gay marriage
yes = gay marriage legal in all states
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
yes = harsher punishment for crimes of hatred
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
Age,
Gender,
Ethnicity,
Orientation,
Religious belief,
Whether you're located in a red or blue state, per the last presidential election, or what country you're from.
All answers will be compiled and analyzed, and salient results will be provided with supporting charts in this or a subsequent thread. Thanks for participating.
I can't see the image, do you have one in higher resolution?
1.) No, on cultural principle
2.) Yes
3.) No
4.) No
5.) No
6.) No, they shouldn't be.
7.) They are not different, as in, I think they deserve the same right as anyone else. But I still think they're insane (and that it's biologically impossible to switch gender).
20, male, white, don't know, agnostic, Belgium
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
No
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
yes
3) Pass civil union legislation
yes
4) Pass gay marriage
no
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
No
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
No, but I would however ban teaching of homosexuality in schools.
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
No.
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
Age 22
Gender male
Ethnicity white
Orientation straight
Religious belief agnostic theist
Whether you're located in a red or blue state, per the last presidential election, or what country you're from. UK
Y, Y, N, Y, Y, N, N
29/M/White/Straight/None/Blue.
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
No
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
yes
3) Pass civil union legislation
yes
4) Pass gay marriage
no
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
No
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
No, but I would however ban teaching of homosexuality in schools.
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
No.
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
Age 22
Gender male
Ethnicity white
Orientation straight
Religious belief agnostic theist
Whether you're located in a red or blue state, per the last presidential election, or what country you're from. UK
>teaching of homosexuality in schools.
As in kids can't learn about homosexuality through school? Why not?
Got that image bigger?
Also do you want answers from yurof**s?
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
N
N
Age - 19
Gender - Male
Ethnicity - White
Orientation - Straight
Religious belief - Agnostic
Country - England
>1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
no
>2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
yes
>3) Pass civil union legislation
yes
>4) Pass gay marriage
no
>5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
no. "hate crime" is a bullsh*t term anyway, murdering someone isn't magically less atrocious if the victim wasn't a minority
>6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
no
>7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
yes, transgender people shouldn't get special rights at all. they're either super-gay or fetishists.
Age 30
Gender Male
Ethnicity White
Orientation Hetero
Religious belief Other
Country Germany
also, i'd like it better if individual states could make their own rules regarding this subject, with no say from the federal government.
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
sure why not, not even sure what it actually does. I just like less law.
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
Sure, discrimination is bad.
3) Pass civil union legislation
No, that's up to the states. I am for civil unions in MY state.
4) Pass gay marriage
No, that's up to the states. I am for gay marriage in MY state.
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
No, I do not believe hate crimes are any worse than regular crimes. Beating someone to death is bad no matter if you did it for personal prejudice or not.
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
Of course not wtf.
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
No, not really, but transgenderism is mostly fictional.
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
Age, 18
Gender, Male
Ethnicity, White
Orientation, Hetero
Religious belief, Catholic
Whether you're located in a red or blue state, per the last presidential election, or what country you're from. - Blue state (NY to be specific)
>teaching of homosexuality in schools.
As in kids can't learn about homosexuality through school? Why not?
Teaching every child in the country about it - when only a tiny minority are that way inclined - is wrong.
>teaching of homosexuality in schools.
As in kids can't learn about homosexuality through school? Why not?
He means setting a heteronormative standard in schools.
Tbh I don't want my kids having their teachers read them stories about Billy and his dads. F**k that sh*t. Billy had a mom.
1 Y
2 Y
3 Y
4 Y
5 Y
6 N
7 N
20
M
W
~80% Straight/ 20% Gay
Spinoza's pretty f**king awesome; agnostic athiest
Liberal enclave in a red state (Tallahassee, FL)
1) No
2) No
3) No
4) No
5) No
6) Public displays of it, yes
7) No
23, Caucasian male, straight, no religion (but not atheist since they're all butthurt virgins), Finland.
Got that image bigger?
Also do you want answers from yurof**s?
The attached is countries with rights regarding gay partnerships. The OP image also included info about which countries apply penalties to LGBT couples; these were wide ranging, with the death penalty applied by some Middle-Eastern and SSA countries.
Yes, opinions from all countries def. welcome.
1)No
2)Yes
3)Yes
4)Yes
5)No
6)No
7)No
18,M,Filipino,straight,Atheist,Philippines
Leviticus 18:22: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
Yeah. Enough said.
Leviticus 18:22: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
Yeah. Enough said.
Agreed. Why do they want to get MARRIED if THEIR F**KING GOD hates them if they do?
1) Yes.
2) Yes.
3) Yes.
4) Yes.
5) Yes.
6) No.
7) No.
Age, 21
Gender, Male
Ethnicity, White Britf**
Orientation, Straight
Religious belief, None, Don't give a f**k.
The attached is countries with rights regarding gay partnerships. The OP image also included info about which countries apply penalties to LGBT couples; these were wide ranging, with the death penalty applied by some Middle-Eastern and SSA countries.
Yes, opinions from all countries def. welcome.
okay
>1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
yes = domestic partners receive spousal benefits
Yeah sure.
>2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
yes = illegal to fire LGBT employees solely on the basis of their orientation
Protected classes are a band-aid solution. Employers should only be able to hire or reject people based on qualities directly related to the job.
3) Pass civil union legislation
yes = civil unions with equivalent benefits to marriage legal in all states
Instead of gay marriage? No. In addition to gay marriage? Yes.
4) Pass gay marriage
yes = gay marriage legal in all states
Yes.
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
yes = harsher punishment for crimes of hatred
Hate crime legislation is dumb.
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
No.
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
No, but I'm not sure how much I believe T is real. But that shouldn't affect anything.
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
Age, 22
Gender, M
Ethnicity, Terrorist
Orientation, Straight
Religious belief, None
Whether you're located in a red or blue state, per the last presidential election, or what country you're from. Netherlands.
Leviticus 18:22: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
Yeah. Enough said.
F**k standing up then.
anon
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. No
6. No
7. No
25
Male
White
Gay
Atheist
Blue
I hope that was informative.
Any other takers?
poll
1) Sure
2) Yeah. The USA should be a meritocracy.
3) Mmmhmmm.
4) No. Separation between church and State means the State stays out of religion too. Marriage is religious in nature.
5) No, "hate crimes" are dumb.
6) What? No. That's dumb.
7) They're the same. I've dated trans girls before.
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Orientation: Um, I dunno. I won't date men, but I'll date girls, even if they're transitioning/transitioned?
Religious belief: Non-practicing Catholic
State: Delaware, blue.
1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) It's up to the church. The state shouldn't meddle with religion as well as it shouldn't meddle with the state. So No to a law like that...
5) Yes
6) F**k no.
7) No.
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Hard to answer that... Brazilian?
Orientation: Straight
Religious belief: Atheistic
Whether you're located in a red or blue state, per the last presidential election, or what country you're from: Brazil.
Tip: Should ask about LGBT couples adopting...
And my answer to that would be: Depends on where you live. The kid's mind is the most important thing here... In... I dunno... Canada? Yes. Brazil? No.
1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Yes
5) No
6) WTF No
7) No
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Asian
Orientation: Straight
Religious belief: None
Blue
1) yes
2) yes
3) yes
4) civil unions is enough
5) I think hate crime legislation is wrong
6) no
7) yes
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
19
Male
White/Jewish
Straight
Atheist
NJ and DC
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act) Yes
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act) Yes
3) Pass civil union legislation. No
4) Pass gay marriage. Yes.
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category. Yes.
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized? No.
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender? No.
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
Age, 22
Gender, F
Ethnicity, Caucasian
Orientation, Heterosexual
Religious belief, Atheist
US - Blue state
1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Yes
5) Yes
6) No
7) No
>20
>Male
>White
>80% straight, would suck a dick
>Atheist
>Canada
Why do so many here not believe in transgenderism? Why is the concept of a male body and a female brain so hard to grasp? How can I be a fetishist if my penis doesn't work because of hormones? And how can I be gay if I'm not attracted to men? I'm just curious.
1. yes
2. yes
3. yes
4. yes
5. no. being a crime of "hatred" does not make the crime any more severe, or any more deserving of punishment
6. no
7. no
22, male, white, straight, agnostic atheist, blue state.
1) yes
2) yes
3) yes
4) yes
5) yes
Supplemental questions:
6) no
7) no
22, male, white, gay, atheist, Italy
I'm with you except for #2 : it should be legal to fire (or at least transfer to the basement) a tranny that's in a public-facing position (like a cashier) .. because who wants to explain that sh*t to a kid.
I'm with you except for #2 : it should be legal to fire (or at least transfer to the basement) a tranny that's in a public-facing position (like a cashier) .. because who wants to explain that sh*t to a kid.
um, how about the parents/guardians?
Thats like saying nobody should be attracted to anyone because then someone has to explain sex to their kids
I'm with you except for #2 : it should be legal to fire (or at least transfer to the basement) a tranny that's in a public-facing position (like a cashier) .. because who wants to explain that sh*t to a kid.
Don't hire them in the first place?
If the employer doesn't know they're a transvestite, neither will the kids.
Why do so many here not believe in transgenderism? Why is the concept of a male body and a female brain so hard to grasp? How can I be a fetishist if my penis doesn't work because of hormones? And how can I be gay if I'm not attracted to men? I'm just curious.
>Why is the concept of a male body and a female brain so hard to grasp?
>male body
that's why
5) is the only one I care enough to answer. I despise the idea of hate crimes. If I kill someone, what difference does it make if I killed them because they're part of some minority that I hate, or if I did it for any other reason? They're still dead regardless of why I did it.
>Why is the concept of a male body and a female brain so hard to grasp?
>male body
that's why
Yes, but hormones pretty much change everything but the penis. And I think most people think that gender and sex are different things. It's pretty much accepted by the medical community that sex is what is between the legs and gender is what is between your ears.
If you say we can't change our sex, I would have to agree to a certain extent. An inverted penis is still an inverted penis. But it more like using hormones and dressing how we want to reflect how we feel inside. If you were a guy, how would you feel if society thought you should start wearing a dress for the rest of your life? And jobs will not hire you if you dress like a guy?
5) is the only one I care enough to answer. I despise the idea of hate crimes. If I kill someone, what difference does it make if I killed them because they're part of some minority that I hate, or if I did it for any other reason? They're still dead regardless of why I did it.
People who kill others because of their race/sexuality/religion are more likely to kill again if they ever get released from jail.
Deep seeded hatred like that isn't going to go away.
um, how about the parents/guardians?
Thats like saying nobody should be attracted to anyone because then someone has to explain sex to their kids
"Daddy, why is that woman so ugly?"
"She or he is a transgender person, son. She or he loves taking c**k up the ass and wearing women's clothes despite having a penis. She or he enjoys the soft silk of lingerie against her or his testicles. She or he also needs to take medication to stay whatever gender she or he chooses to be. She or he probably has unnatural plastic boobs which are against both christian and darwinistic world views. She or he was probably abused by his or her parents."
Why do so many here not believe in transgenderism? Why is the concept of a male body and a female brain so hard to grasp? How can I be a fetishist if my penis doesn't work because of hormones? And how can I be gay if I'm not attracted to men? I'm just curious.
Can't speak for anyone but myself but here's my answer - it's not that I don't believe that it exists but I think in many cases it's people who want to escape their problems. Especially males who want to become females because females are expected to be dainty and passive and wait for someone to pick them up and fix everything for them.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. No
6. No
7. No
18 Male Caucasian Straight Roman Catholic Blue State
5) is the only one I care enough to answer. I despise the idea of hate crimes. If I kill someone, what difference does it make if I killed them because they're part of some minority that I hate, or if I did it for any other reason? They're still dead regardless of why I did it.
Yeah, ya know, I should be able to express my hate to those dirty trannies.
Repealing Doma
- No
Pass ENDA
Yes
Pass Civil Union Legislation
Yes
Pass Gay Marriage
Nope
Hate crime for Gays
Yes but make it the same as other catagories (race, gender, religion)
Should LGBT relationships be criminalized
No...but I can see where some countries are coming from in this regard
Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
Well...if someone made a transition to female they should be able to marry, but if they wanna marry another chick then no...like wise for the other side.
Age - 18
Male
White
Orientation: Straight, could roll with a passable trap though
Religious Belief: Protestant Christian
Blue State - but I'm more conservative/ republican
People who kill others because of their race/sexuality/religion are more likely to kill again if they ever get released from jail.
Deep seeded hatred like that isn't going to go away.
Anyone who has killed before is more likely to kill when they're released. It doesnt matter if they killed because of some dumb prejudice or because of some other reason. Its not the hatred that does it, its the desensitizing.
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
Yes
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
Yes
3) Pass civil union legislation
Yes
4) Pass gay marriage
Yes
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
Yes
Supplemental questions:
6) No
7) No - transgendered people should receive all the rights that LGB people do.
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
Age: 18
Gender: F
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Orientation: Pansexual?
Religious belief: Atheist
Blue state (Maryland)
1. yes
2. yes
3. yes
4. yes
5. maybe
6. nope
Age 20
male
white
straight
atheist
illinois (das bloo)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. No
6. No
7. No
18 Male Caucasian Straight Roman Catholic Blue State
I'm bored so I'll explain my answer to five. I think "hate crimes" should be judged as regular crimes, no additional penalty because it was white on black or straight on gay crime. It just comes out unfair in the end.
Oh my god. I had some friends today participate in that stupid silence thing. It's f**king retarded. Of all the things they could do, they think that everyone being silent is the answer? Oh YEAH THAT'LL F**KING CHANGE EVERYTHING. Nobody wants to go through with it.
Fa**ots and dykes and bi attentionwh**res
should try something else.
Yes, but hormones pretty much change everything but the penis. And I think most people think that gender and sex are different things. It's pretty much accepted by the medical community that sex is what is between the legs and gender is what is between your ears.
If you say we can't change our sex, I would have to agree to a certain extent. An inverted penis is still an inverted penis. But it more like using hormones and dressing how we want to reflect how we feel inside. If you were a guy, how would you feel if society thought you should start wearing a dress for the rest of your life? And jobs will not hire you if you dress like a guy?
You just want attention and an excuse to be fa**ots. Are there male dogs who have bitten off their penises because they want to be female? Are there male birds who have ripped their feathers off to look female? Mental illness is not normal, it severely impairs your ability to reproduce which means evolution wants your genes permanently destroyed.
People who kill others because of their race/sexuality/religion are more likely to kill again if they ever get released from jail.
Deep seeded hatred like that isn't going to go away.
People who kill for any reason whatsoever, except accidentally, are usually too f**ked up to ever live a normal life. Either they kill again, spend the rest of their lives in jail or get fried which is the right thing to do.
no rights to gays!
1 Yes
2 Yes
3 Yes
4 Yes
5 Yes
6 No
7 No
Age: 20
Gender: M
Ethnicity: White
Orientation: Transexual
Religious belief: Agnostic
Whether you're located in a red or blue state, per the last presidential election, or what country you're from: Irelandnoko
I'm bored so I'll explain my answer to five. I think "hate crimes" should be judged as regular crimes, no additional penalty because it was white on black or straight on gay crime. It just comes out unfair in the end.
Hate crimes don't just mean killing someone, a hate crime could be spraypainting someone's house with "Die Jewish scum" - the crime is in the thoughts behind the actions being acted out. If someone had just spraypainted "Joe was here" on someone's house, it's highly unlikely they would get a heavy sentence, if anyone even bothered to press charges in the first place.
Racially/religiously-charged actions are touchy for almost everyone. It might partially be a placebo, but it reflects our values as a society as well. We aren't all utilitarian ("he died, it doesn't matter how he was killed.") like you; it's important to be sensitive to the situation.
Can't speak for anyone but myself but here's my answer - it's not that I don't believe that it exists but I think in many cases it's people who want to escape their problems. Especially males who want to become females because females are expected to be dainty and passive and wait for someone to pick them up and fix everything for them.
Ok, I've never met a single trans girl who transitioned because of that reason. If they exist, and I'm sure they do, they transitioned for the wrong reasons. It's really hard to explain GID to someone who has never experienced it. It's about as hard as explaining depression or love. But I'll do my best. I always felt, from about age three, that I wasn't suppose to be a guy. It didn't feel 'right' at all. When I thought about being a girl, that was the only thing that felt 'right'. I was happy as a guy, I had no problem being one. But it all felt like a huge act. I felt like my life was a play and I was playing a character that was totally opposite of who I really was. I was in shape, but I couldn't stand to even look at myself naked. I felt really really uncomfortable and embarrassed when taking my shirt off to swim because it didn't look right to me. I felt deformed. Now because of my curves and breasts and looking just like a girl, except between my legs, I wear a two piece and feel no embarrassment at all. When I transitioned, every single thing I felt was wrong with me fell from me and I felt right for the first time.
I was never gay, or a very sexual person at all. I don't understand why some people think it's a fetish. I gave up my male sex drive completely to feel 'right'.
>1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
Yes.
>2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
Yes
>3) Pass civil union legislation
Yes.
>4) Pass gay marriage
No.
>5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
No. There is no such thing as a "hate crime." Thought police in full force.
>6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
No.
>7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
I dunno lol.
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Black
Orientation: Straight
Religious belief: Atheist
Oh my god. I had some friends today participate in that stupid silence thing. It's f**king retarded. Of all the things they could do, they think that everyone being silent is the answer? Oh YEAH THAT'LL F**KING CHANGE EVERYTHING. Nobody wants to go through with it.
Fa**ots and dykes and bi attentionwh**res
should try something else.
They do it metaphorically; there's supposed to be symbolism in staying silent in school: LGBT's are pressured into being silent about their conditions, so students decide to be silent for a day to sort of "echo" this climate of insensitivity for others who are not the norm.
Also, you just admitted you go to highschool. Nice. You'll probably tell me you're 18, but with the amount of ignorance you just displayed, it's more likely you're more like 15.
COULD YOU POSSIBLY HAVE FOUND A SMALLER PICTURE, FA**OT OP? I CAN ALMOST DISCERN SOME LETTERS IN THERE
Rowboats love a good survey thread, and this one will deliver--
The following is a list of questions on LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) rights, the first five of which have been recent issues in US politics (the fifth is federal law, the others are not). Next to each say "yes," in favor of the legislation, or "no," not in favor. A brief explanation under each is given for foreignf**s.
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
yes = domestic partners receive spousal benefits
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
yes = illegal to fire LGBT employees solely on the basis of their orientation
3) Pass civil union legislation
yes = civil unions with equivalent benefits to marriage legal in all states
4) Pass gay marriage
yes = gay marriage legal in all states
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
yes = harsher punishment for crimes of hatred
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
Age,
Gender,
Ethnicity,
Orientation,
Religious belief,
Whether you're located in a red or blue state, per the last presidential election, or what country you're from.
All answers will be compiled and analyzed, and salient results will be provided with supporting charts in this or a subsequent thread. Thanks for participating.
No f**king legislation!
That's where all the troubles begin, is when a few whities in ties try to tell everyone what's right and what's wrong.
We just need to chill and let everyone do what the hell they wanna do.
1) yes
2) yes
3) yes
4) no, whats the point of being married when you get the same benefits?
5) yes
6) no
7) no
19/Male/Caucasian/Straight/Agnostic/Blue State
Hate crimes send a wrong message to people who are not protected by them -- if someone I knew and loved was murdered, but the defendant got a "lighter sentence" because, say, my father is white rather than black?
I'd feel a great sense of injustice, and almost as though society valued his life less because of his race.
Ok, I've never met a single trans girl who transitioned because of that reason. If they exist, and I'm sure they do, they transitioned for the wrong reasons. It's really hard to explain GID to someone who has never experienced it. It's about as hard as explaining depression or love. But I'll do my best. I always felt, from about age three, that I wasn't suppose to be a guy. It didn't feel 'right' at all. When I thought about being a girl, that was the only thing that felt 'right'. I was happy as a guy, I had no problem being one. But it all felt like a huge act. I felt like my life was a play and I was playing a character that was totally opposite of who I really was. I was in shape, but I couldn't stand to even look at myself naked. I felt really really uncomfortable and embarrassed when taking my shirt off to swim because it didn't look right to me. I felt deformed. Now because of my curves and breasts and looking just like a girl, except between my legs, I wear a two piece and feel no embarrassment at all. When I transitioned, every single thing I felt was wrong with me fell from me and I felt right for the first time.
I was never gay, or a very sexual person at all. I don't understand why some people think it's a fetish. I gave up my male sex drive completely to feel 'right'.
You must understand that there is something wrong with you. You aren't supposed to live. You have the capability to experience intense discomfort and shame so you would kill yourself. Now you pop pills to live a fake life.
Also, that sh*t is just copypasta from every tranny forum in existence. It's just like joining a cult: Everything feels so right and good, I was never happy until I met my beloved leader Mr. Manson. Ah, he made me feel good about myself which I had never experienced before as he told me.
You just want attention and an excuse to be fa**ots. Are there male dogs who have bitten off their penises because they want to be female? Are there male birds who have ripped their feathers off to look female? Mental illness is not normal, it severely impairs your ability to reproduce which means evolution wants your genes permanently destroyed.
People who kill for any reason whatsoever, except accidentally, are usually too f**ked up to ever live a normal life. Either they kill again, spend the rest of their lives in jail or get fried which is the right thing to do.
Ok, I'll bite. I'm not even attracted to men, never have been. How am I a f** again?
It is classified as a mental illness, like you said. But the cure can be two things, cure the mind, or cure the body. It's been tried for years to cure the mind, it can't be done. So all that's left is to cure the body, which can be done with a simple pill for a lot of trans people. What is so wrong with changing our gender marker? Not like any trans girl who has taken hormones for any length of time has the physical ability to rape women in public restrooms. lol
Hate crimes don't just mean killing someone, a hate crime could be spraypainting someone's house with "Die Jewish scum" - the crime is in the thoughts behind the actions being acted out. If someone had just spraypainted "Joe was here" on someone's house, it's highly unlikely they would get a heavy sentence, if anyone even bothered to press charges in the first place.
Racially/religiously-charged actions are touchy for almost everyone. It might partially be a placebo, but it reflects our values as a society as well. We aren't all utilitarian ("he died, it doesn't matter how he was killed.") like you; it's important to be sensitive to the situation.
While utilitarians would take my viewpoint, it's not a strictly utilitarian view. I simply stand for impartiality of the crime. If I killed a bunch of jews or a bunch of random people, I should get equally long sentences for both crimes.
And by long I mean f**king long. What I mean to say is that all crimes should be punished harshly.
Rowboats love a good survey thread, and this one will deliver--
The following is a list of questions on LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) rights, the first five of which have been recent issues in US politics (the fifth is federal law, the others are not). Next to each say "yes," in favor of the legislation, or "no," not in favor. A brief explanation under each is given for foreignf**s.
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
yes = domestic partners receive spousal benefits
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
yes = illegal to fire LGBT employees solely on the basis of their orientation
3) Pass civil union legislation
yes = civil unions with equivalent benefits to marriage legal in all states
4) Pass gay marriage
yes = gay marriage legal in all states
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
yes = harsher punishment for crimes of hatred
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
Age,
Gender,
Ethnicity,
Orientation,
Religious belief,
Whether you're located in a red or blue state, per the last presidential election, or what country you're from.
All answers will be compiled and analyzed, and salient results will be provided with supporting charts in this or a subsequent thread. Thanks for participating.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. No
6. No
7. No
20
Male
White
Bi
Agnostic Atheist
Blue state
You must understand that there is something wrong with you. You aren't supposed to live. You have the capability to experience intense discomfort and shame so you would kill yourself. Now you pop pills to live a fake life.
Also, that sh*t is just copypasta from every tranny forum in existence. It's just like joining a cult: Everything feels so right and good, I was never happy until I met my beloved leader Mr. Manson. Ah, he made me feel good about myself which I had never experienced before as he told me.
Ah, but everything I said is true. It's the only way I can explain it off the top of my head. And if all those trans people say it this way, there must be a reason, right? lol
Way I see it is that I was born with a birth defect. But you could look at it two ways. I was born with the wrong brain setup for my body, or I was born with a penis and the testosterone damage that comes with it.
BTW, I'm also intersexed. I have male-xx syndrome. Meaning I have female DNA. I would like to know what your take on all this is. It's a rather entertaining seeing how people view us, especially negatively.
While utilitarians would take my viewpoint, it's not a strictly utilitarian view. I simply stand for impartiality of the crime. If I killed a bunch of jews or a bunch of random people, I should get equally long sentences for both crimes.
And by long I mean f**king long. What I mean to say is that all crimes should be punished harshly.
I think you are misunderstanding the definition of a hate crime - if I walked up to a bunch of Jewish people and killed them for no apparent reason, it would not be charged as a hate crime. Again, it's the thoughts behind it that make the crime a hate crime; I think you're implying that if a Jew is killed it's a hate crime automatically.
1) yes
2) yes
3) no
4) yes
5) yes
6) no
7) idk
26, female, white, straight, Christian, blue state
1)yes
2) yes
3) yes
4) not completely in favour, but I don't have a big problem with it.
5) Hate crime legislation is wrong
6) no
7) don't really understand question
21, male, white, straight, catholic
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
sure why not, not even sure what it actually does. I just like less law.
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
Sure, discrimination is bad.
3) Pass civil union legislation
No, that's up to the states. I am for civil unions in MY state.
4) Pass gay marriage
No, that's up to the states. I am for gay marriage in MY state.
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
No, I do not believe hate crimes are any worse than regular crimes. Beating someone to death is bad no matter if you did it for personal prejudice or not.
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
Of course not wtf.
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
No, not really, but transgenderism is mostly fictional.
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
Age, 18
Gender, Male
Ethnicity, White
Orientation, Hetero
Religious belief, Catholic
Whether you're located in a red or blue state, per the last presidential election, or what country you're from. - Blue state (NY to be specific)
1) Sure
2) Yeah. The USA should be a meritocracy.
3) Mmmhmmm.
4) No. Separation between church and State means the State stays out of religion too. Marriage is religious in nature.
5) No, "hate crimes" are dumb.
6) What? No. That's dumb.
7) They're the same. I've dated trans girls before.
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Orientation: Um, I dunno. I won't date men, but I'll date girls, even if they're transitioning/transitioned?
Religious belief: Non-practicing Catholic
State: Delaware, blue.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. No
6. No
7. No
18 Male Caucasian Straight Roman Catholic Blue State
Repealing Doma
- No
Pass ENDA
Yes
Pass Civil Union Legislation
Yes
Pass Gay Marriage
Nope
Hate crime for Gays
Yes but make it the same as other catagories (race, gender, religion)
Should LGBT relationships be criminalized
No...but I can see where some countries are coming from in this regard
Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
Well...if someone made a transition to female they should be able to marry, but if they wanna marry another chick then no...like wise for the other side.
Age - 18
Male
White
Orientation: Straight, could roll with a passable trap though
Religious Belief: Protestant Christian
Blue State - but I'm more conservative/ republican
Wow, there are actually christians on anonymous. Would not have guessed.
They do it metaphorically; there's supposed to be symbolism in staying silent in school: LGBT's are pressured into being silent about their conditions, so students decide to be silent for a day to sort of "echo" this climate of insensitivity for others who are not the norm.
Also, you just admitted you go to highschool. Nice. You'll probably tell me you're 18, but with the amount of ignorance you just displayed, it's more likely you're more like 15.
That's just plain retarded. That kind of boring stunts only get them a negative image.
Ok, I'll bite. I'm not even attracted to men, never have been. How am I a f** again?
It is classified as a mental illness, like you said. But the cure can be two things, cure the mind, or cure the body. It's been tried for years to cure the mind, it can't be done. So all that's left is to cure the body, which can be done with a simple pill for a lot of trans people. What is so wrong with changing our gender marker? Not like any trans girl who has taken hormones for any length of time has the physical ability to rape women in public restrooms. lol
Fa**otry is not mere attraction to penis. It is to not become a man, but to be a woman.
I don't like how you say "trans girl", they're men. Their bodies are male bodies and their brain are male brains since they are bigger than female brains.
You haven't tried to cure yourself. You've only taken the pill you read about in wikipedia. You're just one of the neckbeards who decided to become "women" so they wouldn't be so obliged to get a job or live a normal life of happiness.
I think you are misunderstanding the definition of a hate crime - if I walked up to a bunch of Jewish people and killed them for no apparent reason, it would not be charged as a hate crime. Again, it's the thoughts behind it that make the crime a hate crime; I think you're implying that if a Jew is killed it's a hate crime automatically.
Thing is, the way the US justice system works, the DA wants to pile on as many accusations as possible. I don't really believe if a Jewish guy got killed, the DA wouldn't try to throw out a "hate crime" charge just to see it stick / get in the papers more.
1) Yes
2) Yes
3) No
4) Yes
5) Yes
6) No
7) No
Age :17
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Orientation: Bisexual
Religious Belief: None
Blue State, United States
Wow, there are actually christians on anonymous. Would not have guessed.
Yeah, I guess successful people visit anonymous every once in a while, too. Atheists are only atheists because they feel there can't be a god since their own lives are so miserable. This excludes great thinkers like Stephen Hawking, but includes bitter virgins.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No (due to 4)
4. Yes
5. No
6. No
7. No
19
Male
White British
Gay
No religion
United Kingdom
I think you are misunderstanding the definition of a hate crime - if I walked up to a bunch of Jewish people and killed them for no apparent reason, it would not be charged as a hate crime. Again, it's the thoughts behind it that make the crime a hate crime; I think you're implying that if a Jew is killed it's a hate crime automatically.
So why is it worse that they were killed because they were jews? A lot of murderers hate their victims, is it worse to have killed them because of hatred or because they just liked killing.
The thoughts behind the action shouldn't matter, the only thing that should matter to the law is whether the actions were intentional, or if they were done in self defense
"rights"
lol
Yeah, I guess successful people visit anonymous every once in a while, too. Atheists are only atheists because they feel there can't be a god since their own lives are so miserable. This excludes great thinkers like Stephen Hawking, but includes bitter virgins.
Stephen Hawking describes himself as agnostic
That's just plain retarded. That kind of boring stunts only get them a negative image.
Fa**otry is not mere attraction to penis. It is to not become a man, but to be a woman.
I don't like how you say "trans girl", they're men. Their bodies are male bodies and their brain are male brains since they are bigger than female brains.
You haven't tried to cure yourself. You've only taken the pill you read about in wikipedia. You're just one of the neckbeards who decided to become "women" so they wouldn't be so obliged to get a job or live a normal life of happiness.
Actually, recent studies have shown that the average trans GIRL's brain is closer to a cis female brain that a male brain. There are physical reasons in the brain that make us how we are.
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/85/5/2034
So why is it worse that they were killed because they were jews? A lot of murderers hate their victims, is it worse to have killed them because of hatred or because they just liked killing.
The thoughts behind the action shouldn't matter, the only thing that should matter to the law is whether the actions were intentional, or if they were done in self defense
Actually, it kind of is. Motive plays a big role in the severity of homicide. That's why there's Voluntary Manslaughter and Self-Defense. Be honest with yourself; is a man who gets drunk and kills someone in a bar fight with a glass bottle or something nearly as bad as a guy who runs out in a Klan hood beating someone and shouting FA**OT at them? One of them was stupid and intoxicated, one of them had severely hateful motives.
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
yes
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
yes
3) Pass civil union legislation
yes
4) Pass gay marriage
yes
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
no
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
no
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
no
Ok, I'll bite. I'm not even attracted to men, never have been. How am I a f** again?
It is classified as a mental illness, like you said. But the cure can be two things, cure the mind, or cure the body. It's been tried for years to cure the mind, it can't be done. So all that's left is to cure the body, which can be done with a simple pill for a lot of trans people. What is so wrong with changing our gender marker? Not like any trans girl who has taken hormones for any length of time has the physical ability to rape women in public restrooms. lol
Autogynephilia. You fetishize femininity. That's why your a "trans-lesbian". Trans-lesbians are people who really need help, and unfortunately, they find it online who tell them where to get drugs, etc. It's a seriously f**ked up internet movement, similar to the whole ana/"thinspiration" sh*t online.
I buy there are trans people out there. But the odds you're a f**king "trans lesbian" are so f**king remote, it's ridiculous.
You need help. And no, not chan-site "support" group sh*t.
yes to 1-5
no to 6-7
20, F, Not hetero, Nonreligious, California
That's just plain retarded. That kind of boring stunts only get them a negative image.
Fa**otry is not mere attraction to penis. It is to not become a man, but to be a woman.
I don't like how you say "trans girl", they're men. Their bodies are male bodies and their brain are male brains since they are bigger than female brains.
You haven't tried to cure yourself. You've only taken the pill you read about in wikipedia. You're just one of the neckbeards who decided to become "women" so they wouldn't be so obliged to get a job or live a normal life of happiness.
Most of the transpeople I know actually go to a psychologist and get prescribed hormones from doctors. You know, it's an actual condition that most therapists agree with. Your ignorance shines through with ever post.
Actually, it kind of is. Motive plays a big role in the severity of homicide. That's why there's Voluntary Manslaughter and Self-Defense. Be honest with yourself; is a man who gets drunk and kills someone in a bar fight with a glass bottle or something nearly as bad as a guy who runs out in a Klan hood beating someone and shouting FA**OT at them? One of them was stupid and intoxicated, one of them had severely hateful motives.
The mens rea for murder is intention to kill or seriously harm a person. Being drunk isn't a defense, people get drunk voluntarily, so what they do while drunk is intentional (that's not my opinion, that's how the law sees it).
Hate crime laws are just bad laws.
1) yes
2) yes
3) -
4) yes (covers three)
5) yes
6) no
7) they creep me out (transgenders) but no
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: White (as hell)
Orientation: Straight
Religious beliefs: Athiest
Texas, voted for Obama
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
yes
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
yes)
3) Pass civil union legislation
no, theres no point if marraige is legal
4) Pass gay marriage
yes
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
yes
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
No
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
I don't think so.
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
Age 19
Gender Male
Ethnicity White
Orientation Bisexual
Religious belief Deist
Whether you're located in a red or blue state, per the last presidential election, or what country you're from. New York.
Autogynephilia. You fetishize femininity. That's why your a "trans-lesbian". Trans-lesbians are people who really need help, and unfortunately, they find it online who tell them where to get drugs, etc. It's a seriously f**ked up internet movement, similar to the whole ana/"thinspiration" sh*t online.
I buy there are trans people out there. But the odds you're a f**king "trans lesbian" are so f**king remote, it's ridiculous.
You need help. And no, not chan-site "support" group sh*t.
Have you read any of my above posts? This isn't a fetish. If I could take a pill and feel right as a male, I totally would. I don't want to be trans. I've felt like a girl all my life. What does sexual orientation have to do with what gender you are? There are plenty of gay cis women out there. Why is it so far fetched that there are lesbian trans girls?
Most of the transpeople I know actually go to a psychologist and get prescribed hormones from doctors. You know, it's an actual condition that most therapists agree with. Your ignorance shines through with ever post.
And most of the people I know who "420, toke every day man!" do so under supposed doctor supervision too, for fictitious "chronic headaches" or "back pain".
It's pretty easy to find a quack who'll take your money and give you what you want.
Autogynephilia. You fetishize femininity. That's why your a "trans-lesbian". Trans-lesbians are people who really need help, and unfortunately, they find it online who tell them where to get drugs, etc. It's a seriously f**ked up internet movement, similar to the whole ana/"thinspiration" sh*t online.
I buy there are trans people out there. But the odds you're a f**king "trans lesbian" are so f**king remote, it's ridiculous.
You need help. And no, not chan-site "support" group sh*t.
Most trans I know have known they were women before they even had the internet. They also go to therapists and get it the right way. I in no way condone self medication.
1. Yes
2. Maybe, I'm for protecting gays, but against telling business owners what to do, and afraid of it being abused.
3. Yes, but only if I couldn't get 4
4. See above. Yes
5. No, repeal hate crime laws. Not big on thoughtcrime. If you vandalize a synagogue with Nazi sh*t or whatever, you should be punished for vandalism not because of what you vandalized and how.
6. No.
7. No.
27
white
heterosexual
swing state (Florida)
Have you read any of my above posts? This isn't a fetish. If I could take a pill and feel right as a male, I totally would. I don't want to be trans. I've felt like a girl all my life. What does sexual orientation have to do with what gender you are? There are plenty of gay cis women out there. Why is it so far fetched that there are lesbian trans girls?
Most trans I know have known they were women before they even had the internet. They also go to therapists and get it the right way. I in no way condone self medication.
No, most trans people fetishized (And not in the strictly sexual sense) women to the point they "wished" they could be one.
When I was a little kid, I really wanted to be f**king Batman. If I could find a doctor somewhere who gave me pills so I could be, f**k yeah I'd take 'em.
And most of the people I know who "420, toke every day man!" do so under supposed doctor supervision too, for fictitious "chronic headaches" or "back pain".
It's pretty easy to find a quack who'll take your money and give you what you want.
Actually, it's not some quack I go to. He's an actual gender specialist. And it took me almost a year for him to get to know me enough and run the right tests before he gave me the go ahead to get on hormones. I get tests every three months to see how my blood levels are. It's like this for most trans people, actually. It's a huge screening process. Not just some quack.
Actually, it's not some quack I go to. He's an actual gender specialist. And it took me almost a year for him to get to know me enough and run the right tests before he gave me the go ahead to get on hormones. I get tests every three months to see how my blood levels are. It's like this for most trans people, actually. It's a huge screening process. Not just some quack.
So you specifically sought out a "gender specialist" who's known to give out pills so you can live out your little fantasies?
I think I rest my case.
No, most trans people fetishized (And not in the strictly sexual sense) women to the point they "wished" they could be one.
When I was a little kid, I really wanted to be f**king Batman. If I could find a doctor somewhere who gave me pills so I could be, f**k yeah I'd take 'em.
Eh? And you know most trans people? Do you have some sort of degree on the subject? Can you actually read my mind? Gasp!
So you specifically sought out a "gender specialist" who's known to give out pills so you can live out your little fantasies?
I think I rest my case.
Not so much as known to give out pills, but to help those who need it. If you had a back problem, you would totally seek out a specialist. You would go to a family doctor to get a major surgery, would you?
And he's known to be pretty strict, actually. He turns away tons of people who he feels aren't really trans. But it's not just pills, it's therapy too.
1) yes
2) yes
3) yes
4) no
5) no
6) no
7) no
A few explanations:
4) I think "marriage" should be reserved as a religious term and we should remove all government support for it.
5) I hate the "hate-crimes" laws. We should be focused on removing the laws, not expanding them.
23/M/ white/jewish /straight/atheist
Last presidential election I was in CA (blue), but now I'm in LA (red).
Actually, it kind of is. Motive plays a big role in the severity of homicide. That's why there's Voluntary Manslaughter and Self-Defense. Be honest with yourself; is a man who gets drunk and kills someone in a bar fight with a glass bottle or something nearly as bad as a guy who runs out in a Klan hood beating someone and shouting FA**OT at them? One of them was stupid and intoxicated, one of them had severely hateful motives.
What if a man killed another man because the latter cheated on his wife?
Is that a hate crime?
It's called 1st Degree Murder.
No hate crime legislation needed.
Eh? And you know most trans people? Do you have some sort of degree on the subject? Can you actually read my mind? Gasp!
I've talked to *plenty*. I've been on 420chan, and I've seen what f**king train-wrecks those people are.
I've got a cousin who transitioned from a guy to a girl. He's a f**king mess. His kids are messed up. He's got serious problems with reality. His old man was a captain of police in our city, and pulled strings to get him a job. Cousin did everything possible to get a disability pension, intentionally crashing a car, tried to act nuts, etc.
Finally, he transitioned, still couldn't get himself fired. So he used his webspace on the police department to post semi-pornographic photos of him in his police inform with his fake tits and what not hanging out. This FINALLY got him fired, but hilarious, no pension. Just sh*t canned.
Oh, he's totally a "lesbian."
So yeah, I have some experience.
There's a south park episode [so4e01] that's about hate crimes.
It represents my feelings.
>And we think that that is a savage hypocracy, because all crimes are hate crimes. If a man beats another man because that man was sleeping with his wife, is that not a hate crime?
...
>Mayor, it is time to stop splitting people into groups. All hate crimes do is support the idea that blacks are different from whites, that homosexuals need to be treated differently from non-homos, that we aren't the same.
>But instead, we should all be treated the same, with the same laws and the same punishments for the same crimes
I've talked to *plenty*. I've been on 420chan, and I've seen what f**king train-wrecks those people are.
I've got a cousin who transitioned from a guy to a girl. He's a f**king mess. His kids are messed up. He's got serious problems with reality. His old man was a captain of police in our city, and pulled strings to get him a job. Cousin did everything possible to get a disability pension, intentionally crashing a car, tried to act nuts, etc.
Finally, he transitioned, still couldn't get himself fired. So he used his webspace on the police department to post semi-pornographic photos of him in his police inform with his fake tits and what not hanging out. This FINALLY got him fired, but hilarious, no pension. Just sh*t canned.
Oh, he's totally a "lesbian."
So yeah, I have some experience.
lol I actually have to agree with you on certain points. A TON in the trans community are pretty messed up in the head. I only know a few who don't have mental problems. And I will agree that some do transition to be 'little girls' because they have always wanted to be the little girl. I'll also agree they are probably fetishistic it. And I know of /cd/ on 420. I used to go there years ago. Wasn't my group of people.
That said, not all are like this. I never wanted to be trans. If I could take a pill to make me happy as a guy or if I knew something I could have done to make me not trans, I totally would. But I have to settle with transitioning to rest my mind and be comfortable with my body. I have to admit, I'm happier now than I have ever been. I've been on HRT for over two years now without a single regret. It was like night and day.
All my life, I've wanted to be a cat. I am hoping someday, the world will be open enough to allow this, and let me get my surgeries to make me more cat-like, and more comfortable with my body. Ever since I was a child, I felt "different" and "special". I looked to animals and I felt a special... Kinship.
But there are still things about being a human I like. Like living in a house. But all my life, I've been a cat, trapped in a man's body.
I understand you're a woman, trapped in a man's body. Well, except you still want to have sex with women. I mean, I can totally understand, where I am coming from after all.
Accept me.
1Y
2Y
3Y
4Y
5N
6N
7N
21
M
White
str8
none
Alabama
All my life, I've wanted to be a cat. I am hoping someday, the world will be open enough to allow this, and let me get my surgeries to make me more cat-like, and more comfortable with my body. Ever since I was a child, I felt "different" and "special". I looked to animals and I felt a special... Kinship.
But there are still things about being a human I like. Like living in a house. But all my life, I've been a cat, trapped in a man's body.
I understand you're a woman, trapped in a man's body. Well, except you still want to have sex with women. I mean, I can totally understand, where I am coming from after all.
Accept me.
Totally lame! =) There is no medical studies that point to anyone having an animal brain in a human body. There are plenty that show us to have female brains. I linked one above.
Now, if you want to be a cat, fine, I won't stop you. If you want me to call you felix, fine, I will. But do NOT ask me to scratch your chin and behind your ear! I'm not into bestiality.
1 yes
2 yes
3 no
4 yes
5 no - i don't agree with the whole "hate crime" thing. if i assault a black guy i'm doing the same exact thing as if i were to assault a white guy. it's still an assault. just certain aggravating factors are involved which would lead to harsher punishment. shouldn't make it a federal situation.
6 no
7 no
18, white, male, straight, atheist, Arizona.
Totally lame! =) There is no medical studies that point to anyone having an animal brain in a human body. There are plenty that show us to have female brains. I linked one above.
Now, if you want to be a cat, fine, I won't stop you. If you want me to call you felix, fine, I will. But do NOT ask me to scratch your chin and behind your ear! I'm not into bestiality.
That's so unfair! Science says we share 98.5% of our DNA with chimpanzees!
http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-Much-DNA-Do-We-Share-With-the-Chimps-40594.shtml
I can find obscure science to support my beliefs, so you better accept me!
1. no
2. no
3. yes
4. no
5. no
6. no
7. no
18
Male
White
Straight
Agnostic
Blue State
1: yes
2: yes
3: yes
4: no
5: no
6: no
7: no
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: White
Orientation: Bisexual, leaning heterosexual
Religious belief: Agnostic ("weak") Atheist
State: Red state, but I voted for Obama
>DNA Chimp Human comparison
>Obscure Science
Shut up.
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
Yes
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
Yes
3) Pass civil union legislation
Yes
4) Pass gay marriage
Yes
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
Yes
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
No
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
No
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
Age: 18
Gender: F
Ethnicity: White
Orientation: Straight
Religious belief: Atheist
Whether you're located in a red or blue state, per the last presidential election, or what country you're from: Canada
So're you a hot tranny? aim plox
1) No
2) No
3) No
4) No
5) No
6) Sure, why not.
7) No
19
Male
White
Straight
Protestant
Blue state in 08
That's so unfair! Science says we share 98.5% of our DNA with chimpanzees!
http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-Much-DNA-Do-We-Share-With-the-Chimps-40594.shtml
I can find obscure science to support my beliefs, so you better accept me!
Ah, but what does DNA have to do with any of it? We share pretty much that much DNA with most of the species on this planet. It doesn't mean it's possible to ever have a chimp brain in a human body. It's never happened before. You wouldn't be able to talk. If you want to be a chimp, I'll put you in a cage and feed you bananas. I might be second guessing myself now because I can see you have the brain of a chimp, you can't grasp as simple concepts as transgender even when I'm typing my thoughts out very clearly.
I view gay marriage rights as a sex rights issue.
That is, it isn't 10% of the population being discriminated against by being unable to marry the gender of their choosing, but 50% (men) being not allowed to marry men based solely on their gender (women are allowed to marry men but men aren't) and the other 50% being not allowed to marry women based on nothing but their gender. If we want sexes to be treated equally, they should have the same marriage prospects as each other. You can't give them a separate marriage pool and claim to be equal. "Separate but equal" is never equal.
So're you a hot tranny? aim plox
I might give it, but just know I'm into women and have a girlfriend of two years.
I might give it, but just know I'm into women and have a girlfriend of two years.
eh, it's the internet. nothing'll happen from a little flirting on aim, hah.
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
yes
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
yes
3) Pass civil union legislation
no
4) Pass gay marriage
yes
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
no
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
no
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
no
21
Male
White
Straight
Non-religious
Blue state
I support rights for everyone. I don't support what equates to overbearing feminism.
yes to all
gays will be gays
24
m
doesnt matter
straight
agnostic
not amerirage
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
Yes
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
Yes
3) Pass civil union legislation
Yes
4) Pass gay marriage
Yes
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
Yes
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
No, that's a civil rights violation. This isn't Iran.
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
No, that's just idiotic.
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Orientation: Straight
Religious belief: Christian
Whether you're located in a red or blue state, per the last presidential election, or what country you're from: Blue in 2008, but New Mexico is generally a swing state in every election.
1) Yes.
2) Yes.
3) Yes.
4) Yes.
5) Yes.
6) No.
7) I don't think so.
19, female, white, ???, atheist, blue state.
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
Yes
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
Yes
3) Pass civil union legislation
Yes, but would prefer...
4) Pass gay marriage
Yes
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
Yes
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
No.
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
Naw man.
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: White
Orientation: Gay
Religious belief: Agnostic-Atheist, Catholic background
Red State
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
Yes.
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
No. Businesses have the right to run how they want to.
3) Pass civil union legislation
Yes.
4) Pass gay marriage
No. (Religion defined marriage as it is between a MAN and a WOMAN. You can't force a religion to change their ways because baaaw I'm not happy)
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
No. (Every crime is a hate crime. I don't have a problem with LGBT people, but if they want equal rights, a crime shouldn't be treated differently based on their orientation.)
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
Obviously not.
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
Yes. Transgender marriages between a MAN and a WOMAN I have no problem with. Other than that, no.
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Caucasian (French / Irish)
Orientation: Heterosexual
Religious belief: Atheism
1. No.
You need a legal contract to share benefits, not just "we live together"
2. yes
Nobody deserves to be fired based on their sexual preference. However, LGBT people shouldn't get all f**king uppity and assume they got fired because of their sexuality if they were doing substandard work.
3. yes
Kind of pointless since I answered yes to 4.
4. yes
Consenting adults should be able to enter into any legal contract they wish.
5. No.
Hate crimes are load of sh*t. If a man kills you it makes no difference whether he did it while yelling "fa**ot". He still committed a crime and it shouldn't be treated differently just because he hates you.
6. No.
Free societies do not criminalize activities that are harmless.
7. No.
I don't see why TG makes any difference. Treat all people equally under the law.
Any more?
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
yes
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
Yes
3) Pass civil union legislation
Yes
4) Pass gay marriage
Yes
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
No
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
No
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
No
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: White
Orientation: Straight
Religious belief: None
Whether you're located in a red or blue state, per the last presidential election, or what country you're from: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
No
19/M/Hispanic/Straight/Atheist/blue
Rowboats love a good survey thread, and this one will deliver--
The following is a list of questions on LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) rights, the first five of which have been recent issues in US politics (the fifth is federal law, the others are not). Next to each say "yes," in favor of the legislation, or "no," not in favor. A brief explanation under each is given for foreignf**s.
1) Repealing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)
yes = domestic partners receive spousal benefits
2) Pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act)
yes = illegal to fire LGBT employees solely on the basis of their orientation
3) Pass civil union legislation
yes = civil unions with equivalent benefits to marriage legal in all states
4) Pass gay marriage
yes = gay marriage legal in all states
5) Amending hate crime legislation to include LGBT persons as a protected category
yes = harsher punishment for crimes of hatred
Supplemental questions:
6) Should LGBT relationships be criminalized?
7) Are your answers different for LGB persons, as opposed to the transgender?
PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE YOUR:
Age,
Gender,
Ethnicity,
Orientation,
Religious belief,
Whether you're located in a red or blue state, per the last presidential election, or what country you're from.
All answers will be compiled and analyzed, and salient results will be provided with supporting charts in this or a subsequent thread. Thanks for participating.
1) yes repeal DOMA
2) what the f**k no
3) yes
4) laws have to apply to everybody. if you make marriage law, then it has to apply to everybody. so we should separate religion and state, hurf derr. so, i dont know, yes we should make gay marriage legal in all states.
5) hate crime laws are stupid and shouldnt exist anyway. we may as well make it equal though, so sure, lets "protect" gays and lesbians/whatevers too.
6) what the f**k no
7) no
19
m
white
i dont know, mostly straight i guess
meh, who cares. atheist i guess
Canada
1) yes repeal DOMA
2) what the f**k no
3) yes
4) laws have to apply to everybody. if you make marriage law, then it has to apply to everybody. so we should separate religion and state, hurf derr. so, i dont know, yes we should make gay marriage legal in all states.
5) hate crime laws are stupid and shouldnt exist anyway. we may as well make it equal though, so sure, lets "protect" gays and lesbians/whatevers too.
6) what the f**k no
7) no
19
m
white
i dont know, mostly straight i guess
meh, who cares. atheist i guess
Canada
oh woops i meant no for number 2
1. yes
2. no (I'm against anti-discrimination laws)
3. yes
4. yes
5. no
6. hell no
7. no
age: 20
gender: tranny (m2f)
ethnicity: white
orientation: bi
religious belief: atheist
red
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